Can anyone tell me what type/size unit of combat engineers had their own radio operator during WWII? For example, one radio operator per platoon, per squad, etc?
Thanks,
Laurie
327th Engineer Combat Battalion of WWII
According to my husband, a platoon would most certainly have a radio operator. After all they would have to call in for artillery rounds etc. Combat engineer units would not be any different than any other army unit.
I have a friend who was in the signal corps and was under General McAuliffe. I can ask him some questions. I'm sure the other vets who frequent this forum will be able to pitch in their two cents.
Marion J Chard
Proud Daughter of Walter 'Monday' Poniedzialek
540th Combat Engineer - H&S Company
For you and others, I am going to post some info on the signal corps and radios in WWII.
http://www.gordon.army.mil/AC/WWII/WWIIINTR.HTM
http://www.gordon.army.mil/AC/WWII/34SIGCO.HTM
Marion J Chard
Proud Daughter of Walter 'Monday' Poniedzialek
540th Combat Engineer - H&S Company
I commanded an Engineer Company © during WW11. We were authorized ONLY ONE radio / company. Never had more!!! My operator was T/4 Ernest Besperska, after the war he changed his name to Besper. Much of our messages traffic was by motorcycle runner untill mid-war, then they were taken from us.
AL Kincer
Co. B 48 Engineers
Thank you Al! Any others want to comment on radios in their units?
Marion J Chard
Proud Daughter of Walter 'Monday' Poniedzialek
540th Combat Engineer - H&S Company
Was reading this on a site: http://www.warchronicle.com/staffsyeo/sold...ii/meredith.htm
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“My Sunray is gone.â€
On the radio net the commander is normally referred to as “Sunray†in radio-telephone jargon. So a tank commander, if you’re talking about him, is the “Sunrayâ€.
I can remember the voice of somebody (whose tank commander had obviously been killed) coming on and repeatedly saying, “My Sunray is gone. What shall I do?†Repeatedly saying this until he got an answer, and I suppose the answer was you just get on with it.
But I remember that voice because it was somebody who didn’t know what to do in those circumstances and I could feel for him obviously.
I think one thing we weren’t trained well in all our years of training was getting down to that sort of basic. I was lucky in that I had been to a regiment where we were taught something about tactics, we had a stint commanding tanks and that sort of thing but generally once that had finished you weren’t taught how to cope with that sort of thing. I would have thought that was really an essential. On D-Day, particularly those poor people on Omaha beach, couldn’t have known really what they were going in to...
Marion J Chard
Proud Daughter of Walter 'Monday' Poniedzialek
540th Combat Engineer - H&S Company
Through the eyes of a radioman. He lists some of the equipment and talks about landing at Normandy, etc.
http://www.smecc.org/albert.htm
Marion J Chard
Proud Daughter of Walter 'Monday' Poniedzialek
540th Combat Engineer - H&S Company
All about "handie-talkies" WWII.
http://www.privateline.com/war/personalcom.html
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History of the Signal Corps
"Service: Story of the Signal Corps"
http://www.lonesentry.com/gi_stories_bookl...ts/signalcorps/
Marion J Chard
Proud Daughter of Walter 'Monday' Poniedzialek
540th Combat Engineer - H&S Company
RADIO, WWII
A Working Bibliography
Childs, Harwood L., and Whitton, John B., eds. Propaganda by Short
Wave. Princeton, NJ: Univ Press, 1942. 355 p. D810P6P76.
Meo, L.D. Japan's Radio War on Australia, 1941-1945. London:
Melbourne U.P., 1968. 300 p. D810P7J362.
Rolo, Charles J. Radio Goes to War. NY: Putnam's, 1942. 293 p.
D798R6.
U.S. Army. 2d Mobile Radion Broadcasting Co. History - Second
Mobile Radio Broadcasting Company, December 1943-May 1945.
n.p., n.d. 89 p. 2101-2MRB-1945, UHRm.
_________. Signal Corps. Walkie-Talkie-Past, Present and Future.
Ft. Monmouth, NJ: Sig Corps Engr Lab, 1951. 10 p. UG610U6.
U.S. War Dept. German Radio Communication Equipment. TM 11-227, Jun
1944. 55 p. TM.
_________. Radio Set SCR-593-A. TM 11-859, 2 Mar 1943. 83 p.
TM.
_________. Signal Communication Equipment Directory, Radio
Communication Equipment. TM 11-227, 10 Apr 1944. 124 p. TM.
USAMHI Commo - Radio
RefBranch
dv 1985
NOTE: RADIO MINIATURIZATION & TRANSISTORS, WWII
A search of sources uncovered no indication that the 82d Abn Div used
miniaturized vacuum tubes or other small-scale radio components
during Operation MARKET-GARDEN. The signal equipment of US abn divs
at that time appears standard and non-miniaturized, even though the
pertinent technology existed, having already been proven in the
proximity fuze program.
Published and unpublished histories of the 82d and 101st Abn Divs,
XVIII Abn Corps and First Allied Abn Army contain no details of
actual signal equipment used; instead, they concentrate on operations
and combat. The same holds true for the pertinent published memoirs
and biographies. Even the microfilm records of the 82d Div on file
here lack detailed reports of the G-4 and Signal Section.
The radios used by the airborne divisions are listed in General Board
Report No 16, pp. 8-9, 30 & 32 (D769A5no16). See also Technical
Manuals 11-242 (Feb 1946), 11-235 (May 1945), and 11-615 (Apr 1945),
which reveal ordinary tubes in several of those standard radios. No
hint of miniaturization appears in the descriptions and illustrations
of the radio sets in pertinent articles, from Signal Corps Technical
Information Letter No 23 (Oct 1943), pp. 37-38 & 42-45, and No 30
(May 1944), pp. 25-28.
Miniaturization of some electronic equipment did occur during the
war, most notably in the British-initiated variable time or proximity
fuze, which was, in effect, a miniaturized radar set and included
miniaturized vacuum tubes. However, commensurate miniaturization did
not apparently take place in other wartime electronics. Although the
war's radios progressively became more lightweight and small, no
tactical model appears to have been sufficiently reduced to be
considered miniaturized.
Furthermore, a monograph by William Stevenson, "Miniaturization and
Microminiaturization of Army Communications-Electronics, 1946-1964"
(US Army Material Command, 1966) asserts that wartime mimiaturiza-
tion technology was limited electronically to the proximity fuze.
(The monography is not on file here, but its contents were reported
by Archivist Simchick, Historians Office, Communications-Electronics
Research Command, Ft Monmouth, NJ). In short, radio miniaturization
awaited postwar development.
Miniaturization p.2
SOURCES:
Baldwin, Ralph B. The Deadly Fuze. San Rafael, CA: Presidio, 1980.
UL400.71P7B34.
Baxter, James P. Scientists Against Time. Boston: Little, Brown,
1947. pp. 226, 232-233, & 241. Q127U6B34.
Johns Hopkins Univ. Opns Research Office. Effectiveness of
Miniature Radios in Small Infantry Units. Chevy Chase, MD,
1956. pp. 7 & 97. ORO-T-338.
Smith, Merritt Roe. Military Enterprise and Technological Change:
Perspectives on the American Experience. Cambridge, MA: MIT
Press, 1985. UL170M55.
See Chap 6 on transistor development.
Thompson, George R., and Harris, Dixie R. The Signal Corps: The
Outcome. In the USAWWII series. Wash, DC: OCMH, 1966. pp.
504-505. D769A533v6pt5v3.
U.S. Army. Signal Corps Engineering Laboratories. Walkie-Talkie:
Past, Present & Future. Ft Monmouth, NJ, 1950s. UG610U6.
Although no US tactical radio became miniaturized during the war, the
SCR 695 was indeed a lightweight model. It replaced the SCR 284 in
the abn divs. One can compare the two radio sets in the War Dept's
Radio Communication Equipment: Technical Manual 11-227, (Apr 1944),
pp. 58 & 115. The SCR 694's tubes themselves appear standard size,
as seen in depictions of its internal components in TM 11-230c, (Aug
1944) pp. 51, 53, 63, & 66. The 694 model appears to be little more
than a compressed version of the 284.
We can be reasonably certain that the 82d Abn Div actually used SCR
694s during opns in Holland. According to the div's G-4 Journal (on
microfilm WWII Docs, Box 2041, item 2063) such sets were items of
resupply.
Incidentally, the British B mk II wireless, which was used during the
war by SOE for clandestine opns, appears to be about the same weight
but more compact than the US SCR 694. The British set is described
on p. 102 of Foot's SOE in France (London: HMSO, 1966; D802F8F6).
Could it be that British lightweight radio technology was borrowed by
the US Signal Corps to develop a lightweight tactical radio, such as
the SCR 694?
Miniaturization p.3
Incidentally, no info was found in sources on file here of any
significant radio communications problems experienced by US abn divs
during MARKET-GARDEN opn, which contrasts with those that plagued the
British 1st Abn Div. See:
Galvin, John R. Air Assault: The Development of Airmobile Warfare.
NY: Hawthorne, 1969. pp. 188-189. UD480G3.
Golden, Lewis. Echoes from Arnhem. London: Kimber, 1984. 197 p.
D759.6G65.
Participant focuses on signal aspects.
Hibbert, Christopher. The Battle of Arnhem. NY: Macmillan, 1962.
pp. 95-97. D763N4H48.
MacDonald, Charles B. The Siegfried Line Campaign. In the USAWWII
series. Wash, DC: OCMH, 1963. D769A533v3pt6.
See index under "Radio."
Ryan, Cornelius. A Bridge Too Far. NY: Simon & Schuster, 1974.
D763N4R9.
See index under "Operation Market-Garden: Communications
Problems."
Marion J Chard
Proud Daughter of Walter 'Monday' Poniedzialek
540th Combat Engineer - H&S Company
Foxhole Radios - GI's get inventive! ![]()
http://members.aol.com/djadamson7/articles...es/foxhole.html
http://www.bizarrelabs.com/foxhole3.htm
Marion J Chard
Proud Daughter of Walter 'Monday' Poniedzialek
540th Combat Engineer - H&S Company
WWII Transmitter - T-22/ARC-5
WWII Radio Receiver
WWII Field Phone
This is a Key WT 8 Amp key enclosed in a sheet metal case with two canvas leg straps to secure it to the leg of the radio operator. It was widely used in vehicles during WWII.
http://members.cox.net/w1vet/military/key42
Marion J Chard
Proud Daughter of Walter 'Monday' Poniedzialek
540th Combat Engineer - H&S Company
WOW!!! What a wealth of information! I found myself exploring these links and more. Thanks for the time & effort put into this.
Al - A friend of mine who drove jeep for B Company, 327th Engineers emailed me privately and said, as you did, that their radio was at Company level. He said it was medium sized, about 6x8x12 inches and could be carried as a back pack - not a walky talky.
Thanks, Everyone.
Laurie
could be carried as a back pack - not a walky talky.
A "walkie-talkie" was carried on the back, usually on a back board. The handie-talkie is the small hand-held radio with short range.
I wanted to reply to this but I'm not at home and don't have access to my resources.
Steve
Enginears...Engeneres....Engineres----- I are one and I can't spell it.
Things you learn on this forum: For 65 years I thought the hand held radio was THE walkie-Talkie? NOW you tell me the Company Commanders radio was the walkie-talkie!
Every radio operator should know their hardware, Thus I stand corrected.
I am still a little confused by http://www.olive-drab.com/od_electronics_scr536.php can some one explain.
Paul HInkle
WW2 vet
LM VFW
vision impaired
Senior center Volunteer
Pa. coal cracker
Retired USCS
Ah yes, the good old walkie talkie radio (the SCR-300) The Infantries favorite as it
had a range of about 5 miles. A back pack radio, being powered by a battery pack wieghing about half the wieght of the complete unit. Also the famed handie talkie radio
(the SCR- 536) . Good only, "maybe up to 1000 yards". Hand held and nowhere near
as heavy as the SCR-300. (not like as portraid in the movies where it really reached out. ) .


