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Walts Daughter
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Dear Marion,

 

Thank you for your informative website. I've started researching information from my Grandfather's service discharge record from WWII. I'm writing to see if you might be able to direct me to a source of information related to "Med Det 264th Engr © Bn"

 

Under Battles and Campaigns it states:

GO 33 & 40 WD 45 Rhineland Central Europe

 

I know the first part states General Orders 33 & 40, War Department 1945, and that he was in Rhineland and Central Europe (information on both is linked to your site). However, I have yet to identify 264th. Any suggestions on finding where the 264th was between Feb 1944 and Nov 1945?

 

Best,

Jason

 

Dear Jason:

 

I suggest using our Research tools and contacting various places such as the Army Corps of Engineer's Office of History, and NARA in Maryland, for starts. There are about a dozen or so links to help you in your quest.

 

http://www.6thcorpsc...hp?showtopic=23


Marion J Chard
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I don' know whether military.com is trustable, but here

http://unitpages.military.com/unitpages/unit.do?id=108713

are some members of the unit, I see a link to Alfred Apice (only for members :pdt: ) who writes that his father still lives in Phila who served 1942-45. Maybe you can get a member and contact him?

 

Christoph



   
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Hold up folks, i dont think the 264 Medical battalion is the right unit.

"Med Det 264th Engr © Bn" this means: Medical Detachment, 264th Engineer Combat Battalion.

The man your looking for is a medic with the 264th Engineer Combat Bn.

The 264th ECB has campaign credits for Central Europe & Rhineland and occupation duty, Germany, 20 May - 19 Sept `45 .

Nothing is found on this unit in the histories but appears to have arrived in europe close to the end of the war so was probably under a Base Section, or Adsec command.

I`d suggest you contact the National Archives at College Park, MD for unit records of the 264th Engineer Combat Battalion, and specificly records of their medical detachment.


Larry

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:banghead:

OK, new attempt: Here: http://www.lulu.com/spotlight/pdohrman I have found an e-book (PDF free!) by Paul Ohrman: Bridges to peace. Paul Ohrman describes his experiences as the photographer and cartographer in the 264th Combat Engineers attached to Patton's 3rd Army during War in Europe. The book includes over 200 of photographs. I just finished the download, maybe here you'll find the information you are looking for - if it is the correct unit now. On page 99 also a photo of some medics!

 

Christoph



   
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Here`s 2 photos of the 264th`s medics from the book: Bridges to Peace

 

Below: Medical tent staffed by Manfred, Ungaleider and Carron

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Above, right: Medics – Finkleman, Kirth,

Captain Weisberg, Ungaleider, Manfred,

Sammy.

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Larry

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Okay, let's start over. I will remove some of the incorrect replies, posted earlier today. Poof! They will be gone in a few minutes....

 

Now if anyone reads this, they won't get the wrong impression. Thanks Christoph and Larry. I must be having a bad day... :armata_PDT_23:


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Walts Daughter
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I don' know whether military.com is trustable, but here....

 

Christoph

 

Christoph, I don't know so much about being trustworthy, but I rarely use their site for anything. I'm simply not crazy about their setup. When I did use/reference their site years ago, I was unhappy with the results, so I tend to steer clear of them for the most part. However on occasion, it will render a useful tidbit.


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Walts Daughter
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Christoph, I am downloading the digital book right now. How exciting. That's a great find. Can't wait to read it on my Kindle.


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Hey everyone, Jason is very excited for his grandfather is actually in one of the photos -Finkleman! WOW! This is really something. Great work Larry, as always!


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The thanks go to Christoph for finding the book. An excellent well written account of the 264th with great photos.


Larry

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And I won't forget the men who died, Who gave that right to me."
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We are all lucky we have the internet at our disposal. Simply go back through 8 years of history on just this site, to see how much we have accomplished.

 

It's a joy working with all of you.


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I'd like to thank all of you for looking into the 264th. What a fantastic surprise! A quick response AND a photo of my grandfather! I have since read Paul Ohrman's account of the 264th in his Bridges to Peace memoir. This was exactly what I was hoping to find and now have a general sense of my grandfather's journey in the war. I now plan on digging a little deeper, as per some of the suggestions on this valuable website. I'll be sure to post anything relevant here.

 

Sincerely yours,

Jason



   
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After reading Mr. Ohrman's "Bridges to Peace" which was published in 2009, I thought to look him up. I decided to write him straight away once I found his address. I am happy to report that he not only received my letter, he called me this evening! What a delight to speak to Mr. Ohrman about his book, his experiences, and to learn that he remembered my grandfather. He didn't recall specific encounters, but indicated that the medics in the photo were all part of battalion headquarters, of which Mr. Ohrman was part of as intellegence photographer. In fact, upon asking if he might have had any discussions regarding photography with my grandfather Bernard Finkelman, who had a camera during part of the war, Mr. Ohrman said it was likely he developed his photos. I recalled seeing my grandfather's photos from that time and now hope to see them again soon. I would love the opportunity to share them with Mr. Ohrman and perhaps with this forum.

 

I've introduced Mr. Ohrman to this website and hope we all get the opportunity to hear from him in person.

 

Amazing!



   
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The words, "Oh wow", just escaped my lips as I read this, this morning. Just woke up minutes ago and this is the first thing I saw while waiting for my coffee to brew. What a lovely way to start the day.

 

I am so very happy for you, and I too look forward to having Mr. Ohrman join us on the forum. That would be quite an honor for all of us.

 

:pdt12:


Marion J Chard
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