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 Thanks Walt’s daughter for redirecting me here.

Since my last post I have received this photo of Grandpa from my dear long lost Aunt.

I’m really hoping that someone here will recognise him and be able to share some information.

I have written to several military bodies but have unfortunately not had any response, it’s very disappointing...

I really need to find out where his unit was when they landed in the U.K. so that I can start to fathom where to start looking for my Grandmother.

I would really appreciate any information no matter how small.

Thank you for any information.

Also if there are any photos I would be keen to see them.

Many thanks.

 

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So you've already contacted NARA in Maryland?


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I’m not sure, but think so...to be honest I have no record of some of the organisations that I contacted because I think some contact was through their websites.

I have a copy of his discharge papers.

What I need is information about where he was once he got off the troop ship in October 1944.

 



   
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Then pursuing NARA in Maryland is the way to go.

 

Look under the section labeled Obtaining Unit Records.


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Thanks Walt’s daughter.

I just went to email them again and realised that I had already emailed them before a while ago...

...but I haven’t ever heard back from them so I’ve just emailed them again. You never know things get lost...

I think my Aunt is trying to chase up some information too.

I think in some instances next of kin status may be key.

anyway we’ll see.

Thanks for posting the links for me.



   
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I never tried emailing them. Everyone I know who had any luck, either called or wrote to them at the designated address, and included all pertinent info, such as specific name of unit and the dates of service.

 

  • Modern Military Records: Records that originated in military agencies of the Executive branch of government. Most of these records were created after 1900 and include documents created or accumulated by the various components of the Department of Defense and its predecessor, the War Department.

Contact the Textual Records unit at: The National Archives at College Park, 8601 Adelphi Road, College Park, MD 20740-6001

Telephone: 301-837-3510

 


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I would also contact Fort Leonard Wood. They were of tremendous help when I first started my journey. Please tell them that I sent you.

 

Fort Leonard Wood - Office of Engineer History
Historian, U.S. Army Engineer School
320 MANSCEN Loop, Suite 043
Ft. Leonard Wood, MO 65473
573-563-6365


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Thanks so much Walt’s daughter I shall write to both of them.

I’ll keep everything crossed...it may be a while before I hear anything as I’m in the UK...



   
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Keeping my fingers crossed too. All the best! Can't wait to hear the results. 


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Hello Brimstone, welcome to the forum, glad to have you aboard! Just wanted to inform you of an observation I have made in regards to your grandfather's 309th ECB. There is a directory (roster) for the 309th ECB from October 1942 to November 1945 listed for sale right now on e-bay. They have photos posted of the first page for each company, and I can clearly see your grandfather's name listed for Company C. Thought I would pass this along in case you might be interested in this item. I tell ya, I wish I could find one of these for my grandfather's 292nd ECB, I would snatch it up in a heartbeat! The link is below, good luck with your research.

Randy

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-309th-Engineer-Combat-Battalion-Book-1942-45-Company-A-B-C-H-S-Med/202083430601?hash=item2f0d1c70c9:g:QT4AAOSwQNRZ2~AF


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Thank you Randy so much...I think that I have successfully secured this item.

Much appreciate the heads up.

 

kindest regards

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Great! Glad you could pick up this piece of history before someone else did. I may be wrong but I think this is probably a rare find, don't believe every unit had one of these printed up,  maybe Marion can chime in on this. Not sure what all info you have about your grandfather's unit, but here is a little from Stanton's "World War II Order of Battle"

 

Activated: 15 OCT 1942 at Camp Howze Texas

Departed New York: 20 SEP 1944

Arrived at ETO: 1 OCT 1944

Campaigns: Ardennes-Alsace, Central Europe, Rhineland

August 1945 Location: Gross Hilligsfeld Germany

Arrived New York: 23 JAN 1946

Deactivated: 24 JAN 1946

 

 

 

Have a good one!

Randy


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Thanks for this information Randy, all incredibly interesting for me.

My Grandfather suffered a terrible injury possibly in Germany whilst preparing to leave after the battles, he was run over by a truck and flown back to the US in October 1945 where he went on to spend a year and a half in hospital.

I would really like to find out exactly where he was for the short time that he was in England for.

ETO what is that an abbreviation of do you know? Just wondering, tried googling but still non the wiser...

many thanks for this Randy.

Best wishes

Brimstone



   
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Your most welcome Brimstone. ETO stands for European Theater of Operations. I am including here a couple of links that I think you will find interesting:

The first is a written account of the war time experiences of 309th ECB veteran, Sgt. Alphonse York.

http://www.battleofthebulgememories.be/en/stories/us-army/604-my-experience-in-the-world-war-ii

 

The second is a video interview of 309th ECB veteran, Corporal John Clarke

http://memory.loc.gov/diglib/vhp/story/loc.natlib.afc2001001.32564/

Both men mention being in England but do not specify exactly where. Even though these links will not answer your question about where he was stationed in England, you might learn some other facts. I know this may not be much help but most all units were embedded in the southern regions of England near ports of embarkation such as South Hampton, Plymouth, Brixham etc. If I ever come across more info about this I will be sure to pass it along.

 

Have a good one!

Randy


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Thanks so much for this Randy, for taking the the time to post this.

I’ve printed the Alphonse interview for my records and have watched the interview with John and have just written and emailed the veterans library, so something may come of this...

It was so frustrating watching the interview as John the clerk kept tapping the huge ledger in front of him suggesting that all the information that I need was held within its bindings...

Many thanks Randy, I’ll let you know if I get anything good back from them, I’ve let the veterans library know what I’m looking for... maybe they even have that ‘big book of everything’...

Best wishes

Brimstone



   
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