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| 393rd Special Services/General Services | 24 Relevance | 19 years ago | Walts Daughter | LOOKING FOR... | |
| There are two listings for the 393rd. One is a General Service Regiment, the other a Special Service Regiment, which in this case would make more sense, as it would appear to go along with the special liason info that I provided above. If that is the case, the 393rd was with the 2nd Ranger Battalion and would have been at Normandy at one point. | |||||
| New Guy Intro - 175th Engineer Regiment (General Services) | 23 Relevance | 20 years ago | EVELYN | INTRODUCE YOURSELF | |
| My dad was 1SG of Headquarters and Services Company, 175th Engineer Regiment (General Services) from 1942 until May 1945. Remained with the regiment until deactivation in late 1945 at Camp Patrick Henry, VA. He retired from the Army as a COL in 1974 with 34 years active service. He passed away in 1996. I retired from the Army in 1996 as a LTC with 23 years active service. I am writing a biography on my father. | |||||
| My Interview years ago | 23 Relevance | 18 years ago | Cadetat6 | THE PAPA ART SECTION | |
| Post #1 General Group: General Posts: 6240 Joined: 30-March 02 From: San Francisco Member No.: 15 Posted by: cadetat6 Jul 28 2003 2:21 PM Army Air Corps: When the Army Air Force recruited the college students in 1942 as Aviation Cadets from the colleges and universities across the land, then they told the students that they were needed as officers in the rapidly expanding Army Air Force and would become pilots, navigators, or bombardiers. Furthermore, those that did not choose to fly and had two years of college would become an Aviation Cadet Ground Crew and commissioned in armaments, communication, meteorology, photography, or engineering. But, when the AAF discovered at the end of 1943 that their over zealous recruiting and over estimation of loss rate had created a large surplus of pilots, they ignored all of the promises made to the college students and began transferring them to technical schools. This did not create a pleasant situation for the schools or the ex-cadets. ~~~ Posted by: cadetat6 Jul 28 3002 10:24 AM Enlisted Reserve Corps, Boot Camp: AIR CADET. 1942 I received my civilian pilots license from Hartung Airport at Gratiot and 10-½ mile. 1943 I enlisted in the Army Air Corps. ERC (enlisted reserve Corps). I was sent to Miami Beach, Florida for basic training. We stayed in Netherlands Hotel on Ocean Drive across from the Atlantic Ocean. The Air Corps took over about 300 hotels on south Miami Beach. The first morning the sergeant walked on all the floors blowing whistle and telling every one to fall out in front of the hotel in 4 lines. We were marched (walked) to the Tide (green latrine) hotel for breakfast. As we lined up to go in, 2 kids walked along selling orange juice, pineapple juice and grapefruit juice. Our training took place on the city streets and golf courses and theaters. A typical day was up at 5:10 A.M. to fall out in front of the hotel for Reville, 5:30 back to our rooms to clean them, 5:45 fall out in front and march to breakfast 6:30 back at our hotel to make our beds and clean the room, 7:00 we marched from our hotel to the drill field (which is the golf course), We trained until 11:00 marched back to our hotel at 11:30. Now we got our mail, and at 11:45 went to chow (lunch), then back to our hotel to clean it up again. At 1:00 P.M. we march back to the drill field and trained until 2:45 and got back to our hotel at 3:15. We change to our bathing suits and walk across street for P.T. on the sand beach, finish P.T. at4:45 and go back to our rooms and put on our Class A uniforms. We have Retreat 5:15 and chow at 6:25. The rest of day is ours. Lights out at 9:00 P.M. and in bed at 10:00 P.M. We trained 6 days a week, Sundays off, and I went to church on Sundays in town. November 1943 finished training and men were shipping out, I was not so I went to the Air Inspector Office to check out when I would be shipped out. He looked for my records and said I would be shipped out in 24 hours and I was. We went by train to Gettysburg College Dec. 5, 1943. ~~~ Posted by: cadetat6 Jul 29 2003 6:15 AM Almost AWOL Christmas Christmas Season 1943. I had been away from my fiancee for only 4 months when I arrived at Gettysburg College as Air Corps Cadet. I was a homesick fly boy. I called my Charlotte (Micky) and told her I missed her and was going A.W.O.L. and come home to see her. Bang!! I got a stern voice saying, "No you stay there†and she would come to see me. On Friday Dec 24 Micky came with my mother and father. I met them at 9 A.M. The next three days were great. Sunday night I walked (Gettysburg was only a couple of blocks in those days) them to the Bus Stop. I said goodbye and slowly walked back to "Old Dorm." which was our barracks and as the old song said "tears flowed like wine." ~~~ Posted by: cadetat6 Jul 29 2003 11:55 AM Army Air Corps, 3 Things Not To Do I had my pilot’s license before I enlisted in 1943 and found 3 things not to do. 1. On take off, do not drop the flaps and think your instructor did not see it. 2. Do not put your instructor's flight suit on, take his car key's, drive to the post office and mail a Christmas package for his wife to his mother-in-law. 3. On landing do not shut your radio off, do not watch the tower, do not land on the black top runway when they want you to land on cement runway. Art, a long, long ago air man ~~~ Posted by: cadetat6 Jul 29 2003 9:51 AM How we met – the love of my life Early in 1943, I went on a double date with a friend and the Matthews sisters to Eastwood Amusement Park at Gratiot and 8 mile. It was a long drive from Detroit's west side. I was paired with Blanche, but her sister, Charlotte (Micky) was a great looker and I thought she was the one for me. We all had a good time together. It was more like a friend's outing than a date. Two nights later, Micky was on her way home from her job at G.M.C. She stopped at Simone's soda fountain shop where I was having a frozen Power House candy bar. We talked a while and I asked her to go for a ride. We drove to Belle Isle in my father’s 1940 Ford and watched boats sail down the river. About four months later we got engaged just before I left for Army Air Corps cadet training. I returned to Detroit to get married during a week long furlough. Micky and I were apart for the next two years as I was sent to the Philippine Islands and occupation duty in Taegu, Korea. I returned home to her in July, 1946. We celebrated our 57th wedding anniversary May 15, 2001. Then Dec. 30, 2001 my Micky went to be with our Lord. Our daughters and son-in-law are Toni Ann Morneweck, Terry & Jack Ellis, and grandson Tim 16. We all live in same neighborhood in Novi. Micky's sister Blanche Rosendale, now lives in St. Clair. ~~~ WW2 Marriages: A short “I do†and off to war WW 2 marriages did not have tuxedos and long gowns but did have everlasting love. As a cadet we finished our tour at Gettysburg College and was given one week furlough Friday May 12,1944. From "Old Dorm" I called my fiancee and asked if she would marry me. She said yes, I jumped on a bus to Harrisburg, bought a new cadet hat, jumped on train for Detroit. On the train the porter looked at me, with wings on my shoulder, wings on my new cap, and humming our song "You'll never know how much I miss you". The porter said "Sir we have a better seat in the car ahead of us." I arrived home Saturday morning and found out we needed some papers filled out but offices were closed. Luck was with me, my future father-in-law had friends downtown, so everything was copasetic. We were married Monday May 15,1944 at 7 PM. We went downtown to the Hotel Fort Shelby. Shortly after arriving there my wife's sister and our best man came with White Castle Hamburgers. We spent the rest of the week on cloud nine floating around visiting friends. Sunday May 20, 1944 I left my love (boy, is this hard to write) and did not see her for two years while I went to Philippine Islands and Taegu, Korea. My wife is with our Lord now, looking down here and I can still hear her saying "Roy you are going to make yourself sick". Name Roy is another story, my middle name is LeRoy. May 20 I was back to Gettysburg College and we were shipped out to Maxwell Field, Alabama for Pre-flight. After pre-flight we went to Avon Park, Florida where we started flying the open cockpit Bi-wing PT-17 Stearman. Then to Lakeland Florida with same type of plane. Then to Cochran Field at Macon, Georgia flying the AT-6 Texan. January 1945 I was given check flight by a Captain and one by a Major. (I had my pilot’s license before joining the Air Corps.) The Major said I did OK but they had too many pilots and I was put in the Army Infantry. I went to Gainesville,Texas for infantry training. Finished training and went to New Jersey and then by train to Pittsburg, California and shipped out June 1, 1945 for the Philippine Islands. Korea 1945 – from Air Cadet to Philippines and Korea ~~~ Kellogg’s All-Bran and WW2 I have a friend who was WW2 tail gunner in a B-24 in England. He had a hearty breakfast of Kellogg's All-Bran before a mission over Germany. On the mission the All-Bran started to work. He was not going to fill his pants so he left his tailgunner position and went to the bomb bay doors and relieved himself. When they got back to their base he really got chewed out by the pilot. All I can think about is the German soldier looking up and plop! he gets it right in the face and said American secret weapon but it stinks. ~~~ Posted by Bart Aug 1 2003, 06:26 AM Unbelievable! By the way... I have read your introduction-posts (impressive militairy carreer!) and went searching for a little bit more information about your brother K.I.A. How terrible that he fell just a few weeks before the end of the war! You have my deepest sympathy! And I like to add that me (and so many others of my post-war generation) are still very gratefull for the young soldiers like you brother, who gave their lives for our freedom. Best regards, Bart, Holland ~~~ Max (UK) Posted: Aug 1 2003, 06:44 AM Sorry to hear about your brother, sir. Thanks for the All Bran story - that had me laughing loudly ! That All Bran ( Bran not Brand, btw ) really goes through you. ~~~ Posted by: Kiwiwriter Aug 1 2003, 08:20 AM Your friend proved that war is full of crap and that crap comes from the powers above. ~~~ Max (UK) Posted: Aug 1 2003, 09:03 AM Hehe. This is one of those times that in the middle of something so serious, something very funny emerges. A classic. ~~~ Posted by: cadetat6 Jul 31 2003, 02:33 PM I have a friend who received medal from Westmoreland in Korean War. He also served in WW 2. He is Ray Gonzales G companyof 187th Airborne Regimental Combat Team. Ray does not have a computer so if any one wants to send me a e-mail I will see that Ray gets it. Art <papa@twmi.rr.com> ~~~ Posted by: cadetat6 Aug 2 2003, 03:31 AM My brother-in-law was Marine Officer in South Pacific Lt. V. Terry. This is his story in WW 2 -- Crossing the Equator. Three days away from the equator and then the ship’s captain and those men who had crossed the equator before, began to plan the festivities of the crossing. All who had crossed the equator were called Shellbacks, All who had not crossed the equator were referred to as dirty, slimy, filthy, Pollywogs. All Shellbacks had to show proof of their having crossed before, and all had a card of the Ancient Order of the Deep. Well, as I said, they planned the festivities and this is the result. Several of us were dress in rubber diver suites, completely zippered and buttoned, and we were made (by means of paddle suggestion) to climb the ladder up to the very top little bridge deck way the hell up in the air, and were given spy-glasses (two rolls of toilet tissue fastened together) with which we scanned the horizon for a sign from Davy Jones as to when the Equator would appear in all its glory and announce the arrival of King Neptune aboard the ship. Needless to say it was a warm job in that equatorial heat and out in the sun all buttoned up in rubber suits, I bet I lost 10 pounds that first afternoon. Well, it was worked like that by shifts for two days, about every ten minutes or so a Shell back would approach from the rear (usually a salty little pfc or corporal on his way back to combat for the second or third time) and question you about some ridiculous matter that would have no answer and as a result he would then paddle the devil out of you, and of course the rubber suit accentuated the sting of the paddle. Other hazing crews of Shellbacks were busy elsewhere, requiring anyone of any Rank to do anything he asked. You could do nothing to please them of course and all were paddled thoroughly during that three days session. The favorite request of the Shellbacks was that you Salaam and say Praise Allah, hurrah for the wonderful Shellbacks, and down with the dirty, slimy, filthy, Pollywogs. On each salaam as you bent forward on your knees they would timely administer a paddle to your fanny. Now these were not schoolgirls wielding the paddle but rollicking adult husky Marines and their heart was in their work, especially when the victim happened to be an officer and the Shellback on enlisted man, boy oh boy, their revenge must have been sweet and complete. Well, this went on for the entire three days, for the most part during our waking hours but it did happen sometime that you were hauled out of the sack and at irregular hours. At last the day came when the lookout announced that Davy Jones had signaled him that the Royal Party and His Royal Highness King Neptune (Neptunis Rex) would board the ship at high noon the next day and for all hands to be ready to receive him. Well the skipper of the ship ordered the Jolly Roger hoisted (the Pirate Flag of skull and crossbones). All Pollywogs were marked with an X on their forehead with gentian violet (a blue medicinal potion which is practically indelible), of course sometimes the brush slipped and one’s entire face got it. Well, at exactly noon the next day the Royal Party came aboard and there were these present (appropriately accorded in regular raiment, carried aboard nearly all ships for just this purpose) King Neptune, beard and all. The Royal Baby (a huge 250 pound Marine with head shaved and all rouged and lip-sticked) the Royal Barber, the Royal Doctors, and of course Davy Jones who dressed as a pirate somewhat like John Silver patch over eye etc. These men were well made-up and looked every bit the part with the exception of the gargantuan Royal Baby. Well the party started by all of us being lined up and awaiting the Royal Barber, while we waited we were one by one bathed with a sea hose which threw a stream of salt water from the sea about 4 inches thick and in order to make the job thorough we were required to back into it on our hands and knees, we were not clothed except for skivvies, and believe me the force of that hose was about like an enema on a large scale. Well after backing into the hose for a distance of about 10 feet we were somewhat surprised to find another hose of the same type playing on our faces, making breathing somewhat of an amphibious or something of operation as the water sometimes seemed to contain some bilge water besides the sea-water, so that initial phase was over we stood back and reveled in the misery of those behind us. Suddenly we were marched to the Barber, who proceeded to cut a runway down the center of our beautiful scalp, and I do mean scalp, he took several nicks out of mine besides the hair. The hair clippings fell into a barrel in which had been put some form of lard and shampoo. So after partially scalping us he proceeded to give us a shampoo, but he must have had poor vision because we didn’t get a shampoo but did get our eyes and mouth full of hair and shampoo and lard. Still sputtering we were taken before King Neptune’s elaborate throne where we were required to salaam many times to the rhythmic beat of the paddle, and then we moved over to worship the Royal Baby. This was the climax of the whole affair, the bouncing Royal Baby presented not her face to be kissed but her buttocks, which were diapered and over all about one inch of mustard was smeared. Well everyone had a natural hesitancy about sticking his face into a smear like that which to all appearances might well be imagined something entirely more unsavory than mustard. The court attendants here took the situation in hand (our heads) and with a decided push accomplished the fact. Thence we were placed upon the Royal Surgeon’s operating table and were asked how much we weighed. Of course everyone weighs one hundred and some pounds, and since nearly all say a hundred fifty six, etc they naturally form the Hun syllable with a kind of openmouthed grunt and at that precise moment the Royal Surgeon (large syringe of foul tasting alum-ish fluid in hand) squirts your mouth full and oral cavity being in such a wide-open state the stuff invariably caused much spewing and sputtering and in some cases violent nausea with dismaying results. After that none of us cared much what happened and not much more was possible, it didn’t seem. However it was then necessary for us to drink deep of the deep and a bucket was lowered over the side and some nice salt water was pulled aboard and we all were made to drink. Ugh. Well after several other sessions it seemed we were about to become Shellbacks, but no. Blindfolded and roped hand and foot we were dunked over the side, just a quick wetting for some, it wasn’t possible to do a thorough job on so many, thank goodness, then we were asked what the definition of a Shellback was: and then the trouble began. It seems that Pollywogs are allowed to mutiny if they do it in an orderly manner, and once of the larger and heftier members decided that this was the psychological moment. It was a dismal failure, as the Shellbacks anticipated such an attempt and was well prepared with hoses; it resulted in a washout for us. ~~~ Posted by: cadetat6 Aug 1 2003, 05:14 PM I don't know if this is true but it is said to be. A 4-engine bomber base at Sebring Florida men were sitting around talking, when the radio started receiving a call saying "coming in on one engine, coming in on one engine". The field got ready for the plane, soon in comes a plane -- one engine. It was a fighter – a one-engine plane. Now if this were true, the commandant of the field would have to wait until the 1-engine plane pilot got out and took his flight clothes off and make sure the pilot did not out-rank him. We had some high-ranking pilots in WW2 ~~~ Posted by: cadetat6 Aug 11 2003, 12:19 PM Any one have the straight dope on B-17 ball turret? I was told that the ball turret could not be raised up into the plane.At one air show I was told that the ball turret could be raised into the plane. I read about a plane could not drop the wheels and the ball turret man was killed. ~~~ Posted by: Etienne Aug 11 2003, 02:29 PM The ball turret on a B-17 did not retract into the fuselage like the ball turret on the B-24. Here is a pic of the 17's ball turret from inside the plane. () Here is a pic of the ball turret that is retracted on the 24. () Here is a great site for the Sperry Ball Turret. () There were several incidents where gunners were killed because the ball would be jammed and they could not get out. Hope this helps... ~~~ Posted by: Murman Aug 13 2003, 12:23 PM i think that was in citizen soldiers cadet and i was wondering the same thing but the reason why the gunner died was not because it couldn't be retracted but that the landing gear wouldn't drop as well as the fact he couldn't get out. that stuff about skin chipping off hands because it was so cold was pretty horrific too. ~~~ Posted by Cadetat6 Aug 12 2003, 05:23 PM When I started I was with a group of 15 or more, one was Long John then I went to Veterans Stories and it is not moving. I am a WW 2 Vet who was flying cadet until they had too many pilots and I ended up in Infantry. I am one of the fading group they say we are losing 1000 a day. ~~~ Posted by VanessaBinder Aug 12 2003, 05:30 PM Well, I'm so glad your not one of the 1000/day and that we have you here to share with us your memories and thoughts. As you can see, LongJohn is extremely prolific in his writing and stories, please jump in and start sharing those stories. Your experience and history of this time is very important to us here on this site. Please, start sharing.... Regards, Vanessa ~~~ Posted by homefront41 Aug 12 2003, 06:08 PM Dear Art, I hope I can call you Art. I'm practically your age anyway! Here is where you should go to post. You can just continue to post your messages in this same place so that way everyone will know where to find your stories, and they'll all be in the same place. Just save this URL address to put in your browser when you want to post something new under your own name. I hope this helps. I hope you have many more to tell us. They are being read, I can assure you. Thank you, BK ~~~ Posted by Frenchie: Aug 14 2003, 01:53 PM Dear Sir, I am reading your stories with great interest, my homeplace "Normandie" was freed thanks to you and your fellowmen. Follow the link indicated by BK and keep writing. Thank you for being here. Nathalie ~~~ Posted by Kiwiwriter Aug 16 2003, 12:27 PM Welcome to Easy Company! Glad to see you! This post has been edited by homefront41: Aug 19 2003, 10:59 PM -------------------- "Victory at all costs and in spite of all terrors; victory, however long and hard the road may be, for without victory there is no survival." ~~ Winston Spencer Churchill, May 13, 1940 "History teaches that when you become indifferent and lose the will to fight, someone who has the will to fight will take over." ~~ Colonel Bull Simons "All the great things are simple, and many can be expressed in a single word: freedom, justice, honor, duty, mercy, hope." ~~ Winston Spencer Churchill The study of history makes for a citizenry worthy of its heroes. cadetat6 View Member Profile Add as Friend Send Message Find Member's Topics Find Member's Posts Aug 19 2003, 11:31 AM Post #2 Lieutenant Group: Lieutenant Posts: 120 Joined: 27-July 03 From: Novi, Michigan Member No.: 718 American Bantam Car Company, Butler,Pa. 1940 Karl K. Probst.of Detroit was hired by Bantam and they were the only company who said they could deliver a Prototype in 49 Day’s. Sept. 23,1940 Bantam drove a Prototype to Camp Holibard,Maryland only 30 minuties to spare. The Army tested the prototype and said it exceeded expectations. Then Ford and Willy’s watched, took notes andsubmitted their prototype.. Bantam only had about 1500 employes and could not produce the large number of Jeep’s thr Army wanted. They order was given to Ford and Willy’s. In 1943 Willy’s was charged for false and mis-leading advertising that they created the Jeep. Full Edit Quick Edit cadetat6 View Member Profile Add as Friend Send Message Find Member's Topics Find Member's Posts Aug 27 2003, 02:59 PM Post #3 Lieutenant Group: Lieutenant Posts: 120 Joined: 27-July 03 From: Novi, Michigan Member No.: 718 Hemorroids in WW2 One week in boot camp at Miami Beach,Florida. I had small pimple on butt,went to sick call and 1st Lt. Doctor said we can take that out here. . Luckly a Capt. Standing there said NO that for the hospital. In hospital Dr. Sikes did the operation and the ward boy told me not to sh_t until he came back. Evedentally he was following orders or he for-got me. A week later he came by and asked how I was doing. I said I have not sh_t in a week. He ran down to the pharmacy and came back with a small black pill and had me swallow it. The pill worked, it whent down,, got size of a water mellon and exploded. What a relief Art Full Edit Quick Edit 4deucer View Member Profile Add as Friend Send Message Find Member's Topics Find Member's Posts Aug 27 2003, 04:58 PM Post #4 Major Group: Major Posts: 476 Joined: 21-July 03 From: Southeast USA Member No.: 698 AH! AH! AH! (That's apparently French for HA! HA! HA!) That's the one of the funniest! KA-BLOOEY!!! Right out the old chute! What a story! Thanks. Say, that camp at Miami Beach...do you happen to remember its name? Was it Camp Blanding? My Dad started boot camp (his little diary says Miami Beach), but I've been unable to find the names of any camps in Miami Beach during that time. Maybe it was in the Miami Beach AREA? You know, just outside, etc? Anyway, I've enjoyed all your posts! Keep 'em coming! -------------------- "Goin' My Way?" 4deucer "Post Nubila Victoria" (After The Clouds, Victory) 82nd Chemical Mortar Battalion Honoring the memory of my hero, my Dad, George L. Welch, Jr.(1919-1986), Sergeant, U.S. Army, Co. B, 82nd CMB, 103rd Infantry Regiment, 43rd Infantry Division (Winged Victory), Luzon Campaign, Philippines, June-Sep 1945, and occupation of Japan, Sep 1945-Jan 1946 4deucer View Member Profile Add as Friend Send Message Find Member's Topics Find Member's Posts Aug 27 2003, 05:05 PM Post #5 Major Group: Major Posts: 476 Joined: 21-July 03 From: Southeast USA Member No.: 698 QUOTE(cadetat6 @ Aug 19 2003, 10:31 AM) American Bantam Car Company, Butler,Pa. 1940 Karl K. Probst.of Detroit was hired by Bantam and they were the only company who said they could deliver a Prototype in 49 Day’s. Sept. 23,1940 Bantam drove a Prototype to Camp Holibard,Maryland only 30 minuties to spare. The Army tested the prototype and said it exceeded expectations. Then Ford and Willy’s watched, took notes andsubmitted their prototype.. Bantam only had about 1500 employes and could not produce the large number of Jeep’s thr Army wanted. They order was given to Ford and Willy’s. In 1943 Willy’s was charged for false and mis-leading advertising that they created the Jeep. You're absolutely correct. Bantam had its design "stolen" from them by the other two bidders, partly, or maybe mostly, because of the urgent need by the government to get a vehicle like this pressed into service in mass quantities for the war effort. It's a shame for Bantam, but it sort of "had to be." Talk about poor timing or rotten destiny! -------------------- "Goin' My Way?" 4deucer "Post Nubila Victoria" (After The Clouds, Victory) 82nd Chemical Mortar Battalion Honoring the memory of my hero, my Dad, George L. Welch, Jr.(1919-1986), Sergeant, U.S. Army, Co. B, 82nd CMB, 103rd Infantry Regiment, 43rd Infantry Division (Winged Victory), Luzon Campaign, Philippines, June-Sep 1945, and occupation of Japan, Sep 1945-Jan 1946 cadetat6 View Member Profile Add as Friend Send Message Find Member's Topics Find Member's Posts Aug 27 2003, 09:26 PM Post #6 Lieutenant Group: Lieutenant Posts: 120 Joined: 27-July 03 From: Novi, Michigan Member No.: 718 4deucer, Miami Beach, Florida I don't remember calling it any camp. I only type with one finger but here is a copy of newspaper Full Edit Quick Edit cadetat6 View Member Profile Add as Friend Send Message Find Member's Topics Find Member's Posts Aug 27 2003, 09:53 PM Post #7 Lieutenant Group: Lieutenant Posts: 120 Joined: 27-July 03 From: Novi, Michigan Member No.: 718 4deucer, only one finger and I still screwed up Here we go again AIR FORCE TRAINEES CAMP AT MIAMI HOTELS April 1, 1942 The government has notified Miami hotel ownersthat theAir Force will be taking over many of the city's 300 resort hotels to house up to 30,000 trainees. The men will be run through a training center--dubbed by the cadets "Camp Miami Beach"---that will graduate non-flying officer trainees at the rate of 1,000 a day. This article was in Detroit News April 1,1942 I have a diary and I stayed in Netherland Hotel and it was across the street foom the Atlatic Ocean. Martching was done on paved roads and other training done on golf courses Art Full Edit Quick Edit Morgy View Member Profile Add as Friend Send Message Find Member's Topics Find Member's Posts Aug 28 2003, 05:23 AM Post #8 Lions of the Lowlands Group: General Posts: 2361 Joined: 29-October 02 From: Belgium Member No.: 261 I follow 4 Deucer here Sir : keep your stories coming. The European youth is reading them. Morgy -------------------- "Chantez, compagnons, dans la nuit la Liberté nous écoute..." J.Kessel, M.Druon "Etre libre, c'est aimer les gens que l'on veut [...]" L. Aubrac. "L'héroïsme, le vrai, c'est de trembler et d'y aller quand même. " G. Rivière. In memory of Bonpa Joseph --------------------------- --------------------------- Go go go Foxhole Company ! --------------------------- 4deucer View Member Profile Add as Friend Send Message Find Member's Topics Find Member's Posts Aug 28 2003, 10:33 PM Post #9 Major Group: Major Posts: 476 Joined: 21-July 03 From: Southeast USA Member No.: 698 QUOTE(cadetat6 @ Aug 27 2003, 08:53 PM) AIR FORCE TRAINEES CAMP AT MIAMI HOTELS April 1, 1942 The government has notified Miami hotel ownersthat theAir Force will be taking over many of the city's 300 resort hotels to house up to 30,000 trainees. The men will be run through a training center--dubbed by the cadets "Camp Miami Beach"---that will graduate non-flying officer trainees at the rate of 1,000 a day. Art Sir, Magnificent response! Thanks so much! My Dad wore the sleeve patch of the AAF for many months while here in the States. He got transferred to the Army infantry when the AAF became full, and went from Miami Beach to some proving grounds in Illinois. I still talk to his youngest brother (my Uncle John, who they called 'Peanut' only because he was the youngest of the 5 brothers). Uncle John is 82 this year. Uncle John told me that my Dad's unit got pretty cold in Illinois because they moved them out from Florida in such a hurry that they didn't have time to issue cold climate clothing. From Illinois, Dad went for Chemical Warfare training at Ft. Meade, Maryland, then further infantry training at Fort Howze, Texas, where he earned his Expert Marksman Badge with Carbine and 50 ca. Machine Gun bars. From there, as best I can tell, to maneuvers in Louisiana, then to San Francisco, CA where they shipped out for the Philippines in early 1945. Thank you for writing. Please let us hear more from you! Respectfully, This post has been edited by 4deucer: Aug 28 2003, 11:01 PM -------------------- "Goin' My Way?" 4deucer "Post Nubila Victoria" (After The Clouds, Victory) 82nd Chemical Mortar Battalion Honoring the memory of my hero, my Dad, George L. Welch, Jr.(1919-1986), Sergeant, U.S. Army, Co. B, 82nd CMB, 103rd Infantry Regiment, 43rd Infantry Division (Winged Victory), Luzon Campaign, Philippines, June-Sep 1945, and occupation of Japan, Sep 1945-Jan 1946 cadetat6 View Member Profile Add as Friend Send Message Find Member's Topics Find Member's Posts Aug 29 2003, 03:01 PM Post #10 Lieutenant Group: Lieutenant Posts: 120 Joined: 27-July 03 From: Novi, Michigan Member No.: 718 aducer, I know what your father went through. After flying AT-6 they asked me were I wanteded to go . All I thought of was what air base was closest to my home It was chanute field ,had opening for teletype repair man. I jumped at the chance and went to chanute field. After a couple of days, I was woke up at mid-night and told to pack my barrack's bag. I packed and they were checking me out and a wcc asked me if I knew were I was going, I said NO and she said to the Infantry. I was too tired to know what was going on but a couple days later I was in a Gainsville Texas army camp. The first thing I seen was a army officer slouched in a chair with dirty clothes on.. BANG I thought whatt am I getting in to. In air cadets I never seen a officer in dirty cloths.But I thought this is better than reporting to German officer Art long ago air man Full Edit Quick Edit cadetat6 View Member Profile Add as Friend Send Message Find Member's Topics Find Member's Posts Aug 31 2003, 02:09 PM Post #11 Lieutenant Group: Lieutenant Posts: 120 Joined: 27-July 03 From: Novi, Michigan Member No.: 718 I just had a senior momemt about Miami Beach ,Florida 1943 Some called it The country Club of the Air Corp. Art Full Edit Quick Edit cadetat6 View Member Profile Add as Friend Send Message Find Member's Topics Find Member's Posts Sep 2 2003, 04:55 PM Post #12 Lieutenant Group: Lieutenant Posts: 120 Joined: 27-July 03 From: Novi, Michigan Member No.: 718 any one know what I would do to get medals and ribbons of my brother He was KIA and my grand soin is only nephew he had Full Edit Quick Edit homefront41 View Member Profile Add as Friend Send Message Find Member's Topics Find Member's Posts Sep 3 2003, 12:22 AM Post #13 General Group: General Posts: 6240 Joined: 30-March 02 From: San Francisco Member No.: 15 Sit tight, Art. I'll ask around. I'm sure we can get some good information about this. BK -------------------- "Victory at all costs and in spite of all terrors; victory, however long and hard the road may be, for without victory there is no survival." ~~ Winston Spencer Churchill, May 13, 1940 "History teaches that when you become indifferent and lose the will to fight, someone who has the will to fight will take over." ~~ Colonel Bull Simons "All the great things are simple, and many can be expressed in a single word: freedom, justice, honor, duty, mercy, hope." ~~ Winston Spencer Churchill The study of history makes for a citizenry worthy of its heroes. 4deucer View Member Profile Add as Friend Send Message Find Member's Topics Find Member's Posts Sep 3 2003, 08:20 AM Post #14 Major Group: Major Posts: 476 Joined: 21-July 03 From: Southeast USA Member No.: 698 Sir, Follow this link: He needs to either fill in the online request Form 180, or print out the Form 180 that is available by following links on the NARA page. Encourage patience, it takes them at least 8-10 months to respond. But they will. Best of luck! Respectfully, -------------------- "Goin' My Way?" 4deucer "Post Nubila Victoria" (After The Clouds, Victory) 82nd Chemical Mortar Battalion Honoring the memory of my hero, my Dad, George L. Welch, Jr.(1919-1986), Sergeant, U.S. Army, Co. B, 82nd CMB, 103rd Infantry Regiment, 43rd Infantry Division (Winged Victory), Luzon Campaign, Philippines, June-Sep 1945, and occupation of Japan, Sep 1945-Jan 1946 cadetat6 View Member Profile Add as Friend Send Message Find Member's Topics Find Member's Posts Sep 3 2003, 09:01 AM Post #15 Lieutenant Group: Lieutenant Posts: 120 Joined: 27-July 03 From: Novi, Michigan Member No.: 718 Thanks to every one for info on forms I need. 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| 393rd Special Services/General Services | 22 Relevance | 16 years ago | Walts Daughter | LOOKING FOR... | |
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| Unit Insignia, DUI`s, Crests, Patches, Flags | 45 Relevance | 17 years ago | Wendy | INSTRUCTIONS FOR RESEARCH | |
| The Institute of Heraldry is the authorizing agency for all military insignia. During WW2 the function was assigned to the office of the Quartermaster General. On the website many of the unit insignias have been digitized but not nearly all of them. Still it is the place to go to inquire about insignia. The Institute of Heraldry Home Page THE INSTITUTE OF HERALDRY HISTORY The Institute of Heraldry, U.S. Army, is located at Fort Belvoir, a military installation within the metropolitan area of Washington, D.C. The staff consists of thirty-two civilians. The mission of the Institute is to furnish heraldic Services to the Armed Forces and other United States government organizations, including the Executive Office of the President. The activities of the Institute encompass research, design, development, standardization, quality control, and other Services relating to official symbolic items--seals, decorations, medals, insignia, badges, flags, and other items awarded to or authorized for official wear or display by government personnel and agencies. Limited research and information Services concerning official symbolic items are also provided to the General public. Heraldic and other military symbols have been used by the military forces as well as other organizational elements of the government since the beginning of the Revolution. However, until 1919, there was no coordinated, overall military symbolism program. In that year, within the War Department General Staff, an office was delegated the responsibility for the coordination and approval of coats of arms and insignia of certain Army organizations. In 1924, formal staff responsibility for specific military designs was delegated to The Quartermaster General. As the needs for symbolism by the military Services and the national government expanded, the scope of the Services furnished by The Quartermaster General’s Office evolved into a sizable heraldic program. The acceleration of activities brought about by World War II, the expansion of the Army, and subsequent increase of interest in symbolism, contributed to the growth of the program. In 1949, the Munitions Board, acting for the Army, Navy and Air Force, directed the Army to provide heraldic Services to all military departments. The program was expanded further as a result of the enactment of Public Law 85-263, approved September 1957, 71 Stat. 589, which delineates the authority of the Secretary of the Army to furnish heraldic Services to the military departments and other branches of the federal government. The Institute of Heraldry was established in 1960 at Cameron Station in Alexandria, Virginia. Within the Institute, functions formerly performed within the Office of The Quartermaster General and several field activities were consolidated. Upon reorganization of the Army in 1962, responsibility for the Heraldic Program was assigned to The Adjutant General’s Office. In 1987, with the realignment of certain Army Staff agency functions, the Institute was transferred to the United States Army Human Resources Command. In April 1994, The Institute of Heraldry was relocated from Cameron Station to Fort Belvoir, Virginia. As a result of a realignment in October 2004, responsibility for the Heraldic Program was assigned to The Administrative Assistant to the Secretary of the Army, Resources and Programs Agency. Visit our web site at http:\www.tioh.hqda.pentagon.mil. | |||||
| 373rd Engineers | 42 Relevance | 15 years ago | G40Sully | INTRODUCE YOURSELF | |
| ... pre D-Day "Operation Bolero". There was a sizeable camp located by the town, known by the code name "G-40". We do not have a great deal of knowledge on who built it, who staffed it and what went on there (Transpiration we believe) as, under war time conditions, too many enquiries at the time may have given the wrong impression !. We have recently opened a website covering our intentions at - please take a look. What drew me to your site was the words "373rd Engineer General Service Regiment" in the correspondence as I am led to understand that the 3 ... | |||||
| 393rd Special Services/General Services | 22 Relevance | 16 years ago | Jeeper704 | LOOKING FOR... | |
| Thanks again, Marion. I'll pass it on to my friend. Erwin | |||||
| 393rd Special Services/General Services | 22 Relevance | 16 years ago | Walts Daughter | LOOKING FOR... | |
| Here's some photos on the 393rd: | |||||
| 393rd Special Services/General Services | 22 Relevance | 19 years ago | Jeeper704 | LOOKING FOR... | |
| Thanks for the info. I'll pass it on to my friend. Erwin | |||||
| 393rd Special Services/General Services | 22 Relevance | 19 years ago | Walts Daughter | LOOKING FOR... | |
| EXTREMELY WELCOME! I'll keep ya posted... | |||||
| 393rd Special Services/General Services | 22 Relevance | 19 years ago | Jeeper704 | LOOKING FOR... | |
| Wow, that's quite some information. Thank you, I knew I could rely on you. If you have any other info either on the unit or on Thomas Shepard, it would be much appreciated. Erwin | |||||
| Farewell Gen Barrow | 39 Relevance | 17 years ago | Anonymous | ANNOUNCEMENTS, GET WELLS & FAREWELLS | |
| The following is a letter from our current Commandant, General James Conway. From: Conway Gen James T Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 14:29 To: HQMC FLAGALL Subject: PASSING OF OUR 27TH COMMANDANT Generals, Admirals, and Senior Executives, It is with deep regret that I announce the death this afternoon, 30 October 2008, of General Robert H. Barrow, U.S. Marine Corps, Retired, our 27th Commandant of the Marine Corps and a highly decorated veteran of three wars. In accordance with Article 1288 of Navy Regulations, when a former Commandant passes, all Marine Corps installations will half-mast the national ensign from the time of General Barrow's death through sunset on the day of internment. Funeral plans are not complete. Once available, this headquarters will announce details of funeral plans via All-Marine message. Per MCO 5360.10A, the Officer in Charge of the funeral staff is Brigadier General Michael Brogan. He is responsible for planning, coordinating, and ensuring proper execution of the funeral and burial ceremony. General Barrow was born on 5 February 1922 in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. He graduated high school in 1939 and enrolled at Louisiana State University. In March 1942, he enlisted in the Platoon Leader's Class Program. He left school in the fall of 1942 and went to boot camp in San Diego, staying on after graduation as a drill instructor. Selected for Officer Candidate School, he left San Diego for Quantico in March 1943; and on 19 May 1943, he was commissioned as a second lieutenant of Marines. Following officer training, he was assigned to Marine Barracks, Naval Ammunition Depot, New Orleans. He was reassigned in February 1944 to the 51st Replacement Battalion in Camp Lejeune, North Carolina. During the last seven months of World War II, he led an American team serving with Chinese guerrilla forces in Japanese occupied Central China. He was awarded the Bronze Star. After World War II, he served as Aide de Camp to the Commanding General, Fleet Marine Force, Atlantic. He completed Amphibious Warfare School, Junior Course in June 1949, and was transferred to the 2d Marine Division at Camp Lejeune. He was given command of Company A, 1st Battalion, 2d Marines. At the beginning of the Korean War, his company was transferred to Camp Pendleton and redesignated Company A, 1st Battalion, 1st Marines, 1st Marine Division. He led Able Company ashore at Inchon in September 1950. For his leadership in the fighting on the outskirts of Seoul, he received the Silver Star. During the Chosin Reservoir Campaign, he was awarded the Navy Cross for the seizure and defense of Hill 1081 from 9-10 December 1950. After the Korean War, he was reassigned as Officer-in-Charge, Infantry Desk, Enlisted Assignments, Headquarters Marine Corps. From there he was detailed out and sent on a classified assignment to the Far East, north of Taiwan. He returned to Headquarters Marine Corps, this time to the G-3. In February 1956, he returned to Camp Lejeune, where he served first as operations officer and then executive officer of 2d Battalion, 6th Marines. He joined the NROTC unit at Tulane University in 1957, and served as Marine Officer Instructor for three years. Returning to Quantico, he completed a tour with the Landing Force Development Center and attended the Officer's Senior Course in 1963. He left for another tour in the Pacific, where he served as G-3, III Marine Expeditionary Force, then G-3 Plans Officer at Fleet Marine Force Pacific in Hawaii. Attendance at the National War College followed, and upon graduation in 1968, he arrived in South Vietnam to take command of 9th Marines, 3d Marine Division. The regiment conducted a series of highly successful operations south of the western part of the Demilitarized Zone and in the Khe Sanh and Ba Long Valley areas. For his valor during Operation Dewey Canyon from 22 January to 18 March 1969, he received the Distinguished Service Cross. He was promoted to brigadier General in August 1969 by General Leonard F. Chapman, 24th Commandant of the Marine Corps. General Barrow's first tour as a General officer was Commanding General, Marine Corps Base, Camp Butler, Okinawa, where he served for three years. He then served as Commanding General, Marine Corps Recruit Depot, Parris Island, South Carolina for 32 months. In July 1975, he was assigned as Deputy Chief of Staff for Manpower, Headquarters Marine Corps. The following year, he became Commanding General, Fleet Marine Force Atlantic, Norfolk, Virginia. He was Assistant Commandant of the Marine Corps from July 1978, until a year later when he assumed the office as Commandant. Befitting his reputation and stature, when General Barrow stepped down as 27th Commandant of the Marine Corps on 26 June 1983, President Ronald Reagan presided over the ceremony at Marine Barracks, Washington, D.C. General Barrow returned to Louisiana, where he lived in retirement. General Barrow was a three-war Marine with unparalleled experience in conventional and irregular conflict. He commanded at every level. His deep sense of purpose and abiding love of the Corps propelled him from the rank of private to General and the Office of the Commandant. He was the first Marine to serve a regular four-year tour as a full member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. He was a leader in personnel reform and was instrumental in the decision to make the commanding Generals of the recruit depots the two chief regional recruiters. He believed a better quality of recruit led to an increase in performance and retention. As such, he advocated an increase in the percentage of high school graduates and screening programs for recruiters and drill instructors. As Commandant, he addressed substance abuse and alcoholism by ending the tolerance of drug abusers and problem drinkers. Under his steady hand, the Marine Corps reached a plateau of excellence in attracting and retaining quality men and women. General Barrow's medals and decorations include the Navy Cross, Defense Distinguished Service Medal with Oak Leaf Cluster, Department of the Army Distinguished Service Cross, Distinguished Service Medal, Silver Star, three Legions of Merit, two Bronze Stars, and the Combat Action Ribbon. In the essay he wrote for the book, Commandants of the Marine Corps, BGen Edwin Simmons quoted the personal credo of Gen Barrow: "In any Institution or undertaking, the importance of people transcends all else." General Barrow maintained, throughout his life, an abiding love and respect for his Marines. We, in turn, will miss him greatly. | |||||
| Code & Cover Names - Special Ops Forces | 22 Relevance | 20 years ago | Walts Daughter | ANYTHING WWII | |
| World War II Special Operations Forces CODE AND COVER NAMES European Theater of Operations -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CODE MEANING ACHILLE Code name for a Maquis group leader. ADIABATIQUE Code name for MAJ Cesac, a non-American organizer and head of Maquis. AGURE Code name for CPT R. A. Rubinstein, British member of JEDBURGH team DOUGLAS. ALABAMA Code name for 1LT Robert M. Anstett, Coast Artillery Corps, American member of JEDBURGH team HARRY. ALAIN Code name for a captain of the FFI. ALAN Cover name for JEDBURGH team composed of: CPT (British) S. N. Cannicott (PEMBROKE); LT (French) A. Gairaid (ARIEGE); and Sout-LT (French) F. de Heysen (KRONER). ALASTAIR Cover name for JEDBURGH team composed of: MAJ (British) O. H. Brown (KENT); LT (French) R. Maitre (DONEGALL); and SGT (British) G. N. Smith (LINCOLN). ALEC Cover name for JEDBURGH team composed of: LT (American) G. G. Thompson (CROMARTY); CPT (French) B. Allet (OXFORD); and SGT (American) J. White (COLORADO). ALEX Code name for FTP regional chief. ALEXANDER Cover name for JEDBURGH team composed of: LT (American) S. J. O. Alsop (RONA); LT (French) R. Thouville (LEIX); and SGT (American) N. E. Franklin (CORK). ALEXANDER Code name for French intelligence agent. ALFRED Cover name for JEDBURGH team composed of: CPT (British) L. D. MacDougall (ARGYLL); LT (French) G. de Wavrant (AUDE); and SGT (British) A. W. Key (WAMPUM). ALOES Mission Spcial EMFFI mission composed of Allied officers, JEDBURGHS, and FFI agents, sent into the field to set up resistance headquarters in Brittany. ANACHORERE Code name for LT J. Ronglou, French member of JEDBURGH team DOUGLAS. ANDRE Military chief of the FFI. ANDY Cover name for JEDBURGH team composed of: MAJ (British) R. Parkinson (FIFE); CPT (French) J. Vermeulen (CARLOW); and SGT (British) R. Loosmore (LUNDY). ANIC Code name for Maquis regional commander. ANTHONY Cover name for JEDBURGH team composed of: LT M. B. Starring, Cavalry, (NEBRASKA); CPT (French) C. Deprez (PERTH); and SGT (American) J. Bradner (PFENNIG). ANTOINE Code name for F-Section British agent and organizer of VENTRILOQUIST circuit. Usage ANTOINE at ST. PAUL. APORTE Code name for MAJ K. D. Bennet, British leader of JEDBURGH team DANIEL. ARDECHE Code name for CPT P. Charron, French member of JEDBURGH team GILBERT. ARIEGE Code name for LT A. Gairaud, French member of JEDBURGH team ALAN. ARGENTIER Code name for CPT P. De Schonen, member of JEDBURGH team DANIEL. ARMAND Code name for organizer of F-Section SPIRITUALIST circuit. ARRAN Code name for CPT V. A. Gough, British leader of JEDBURGH team JACOB. AS Armée Secrète (Gaullist Secret Army). AUBREY Cover name for JEDBURGH team composed of: CPT (British) G. Marchant (RUTLAND); LT (French) J. Telmon (KILDARE); and SGT (British) I. Hooker (THALER). BARBIER Code name for member of the FFI. BARON Code name for non-American agent. BARTHELEMY F-Section organizer. BASIL Cover name for JEDBURGH team composed of: MAJ (British) T. A. Carew (SUTHERLAND); CPT (French) Raincourt (AMBLEVE); and SGT (American) J. L. Stoyka (ORE). BCRA Bureau Central de Renseignements et d'Action (Gaullist intelligence service first established in London). BEIGNE Chief of regional ORA. BENJAMIN Cover name for JEDBURGH team composed of: MAJ (British) A. J. Forrest (STIRLING); LT (French) P. Marchand (ULSTER); and Sous-LT (French) J. Camouin (SERRE). BENOIT Code name for COL Bertrand of the FFI. BERKSHRIRE Code name for MAJ William Colby, Field Artillery, leader of JEDBURGH team BRUCE. BLAISE Code name for non-American agent. BLONDEL Code name for member of FFI. BOA Bureau d'Opérations Aériennes (Nord) (Service for arranging clandestine air operations in northern France). BOULAYA Code name for French agent. Usage: BOULAYA at BERTHELOT. BOURGOIN Code name for French Maquis Commandant. BOURSIER Code name for 1LT Shirley R. Trumps, Infantry, leader of JEDBURGH team RONALD. BOUTTON Code name for LT J. Dartigues, French member of JEDBURGH team RONALD. BRAL Bureau Renseignements Action Londres (a Gaullist French resistance organization consisting of BRAL personnel remaining in London after Charles de Gaulle moved to Algiers). BRIAN Cover name for JEDBURGH team composed of: MAJ (British) F. Johnston (ILLINOIS); CPT (French) R. Francompte (ORKNEY); and SGT (British) N. A. Smith (URA). BULLBASKET Code name for SAS party dropped into France with JEDBURGH team HUGH. BURGAMOTTE Mission RF Section Allied-Maquis mission in France. BUTCH Code name for LTC (AUS) Serge Obolensky, leader of Operational Group PATRICK. CANELLE Mission EMFFI mission in France. CAMILLE Code name for French agent. CARLOW Code name for CPT J. Vemeulen, French member of JEDBURGH team ANDY. CARNAVON Code name for CPT J. Kerneval, French member of JEDBURGH team FELIX. CDL Comité Départemental de Libération (Departmental Liberation Committee, a French resistance organization). CECIL Cover name for JEDBURGH team composed of: MAJ (British) D. J. Nielson (DELAWARE); CPT (French) A. Frayan (LYS); and SGT (British) R. Wilde (CENTAVO). CENTIME Code name for 2/Cl R. Legrand, radio operator of JEDBURGH team HARRY. CFL Corps Francs de la Libération (name of French MUR military groups unified in 1944). CFLN Comité Français de la Libération Nationale (French Committee of National Liberation). CHABANNE Code name for member of Maquis. CHARENTE Code name for CPT E. Marchant, French member of JEDBURGH team HILARY. CHAUSSADE Code name for French agent. CHEVRIER Code name for French agent. CHRISTOPHER Cover name of Operational Group dispatched to the Poitiers area of France on 3/4 September 1944. CLAUDE Code name for French agent. CLUNY Mission Allied mission into France. CNR Conseil National de la Résistance (National Resistance Council, acting inside occupied France). COLLET Code name for French agent. COLON Code name for FFI regional chief. COLORADO Code name for SGT J. White, American radio operator of JEDBURGH team ALEC. COMAC Comité d'Action Militaire (Military Action Committee of the CNR). Do NOT confuse with the Comité d'Action Militaire en France, which was attached to the DGSS. COMPTE Code name for member of Armee Secrete. CONAN Code name for French agent. CONNAUGHT Code name for LT G. Baraud, French member of JEDBURGH team JACOB. CORK Code name for SGT N. E. Franklin, American radio operator of JEDBURGH team ALEXANDER. Corps Franc Commando-type military groups. COTTIN Code name for General Cochet, FFI. CROC Code name for member of Maquis and organizer. CROMARTY Code name for LT G. G. Thompson, American member of JEDBURGH team ALEC. CROWN Code name for CPT W. R. Crawshay, British leader of JEDBURGH team HUGH. DANIEL Cover name for JEDBURGH team composed of: MAJ (British) K. D. Bennett (APORTRE); CPT (French) P. de Schonen (ARGENTIER); and SGT (British) R. Brierley (FLORIN). DARIES Code name for departmental chief of French resistance organization. DAROL Code name for non-American agent. DAVID Code name for FFI regional chief. DELAFERTHE Code name for member of the FFI. DENBY Code name for CPT D. D. Guthrie, British leader of JEDBURGH team HARRY. DENEVILLE Code name for French patriot. DENNIS Code name for British agent. DESCARVET Code name for member of the Maquis. DGSS Direction Général des Services Spéciaux (Gaullist Special Services Executive, headed by Jacques Soustelle). DIAGRAMME Code name for member of the FFI. DIAMETRE Code name for member of the FFI. DICKENS Code name for SAS party. DIE Code name for member of Maquis. DIEUDONNE Code name for French agent. DIME Code name for T/3 W. Zielski, American radio operator of JEDBURGH team HORACE. DINGSON Code name for member of British SAS party. DITCHER F-Section circuit. DM Délégué Militaire (Military Delegate). DMOS Délégué Militaire Opérations Sud (Military Delegate for Southern Operations, a position held by Général Gabriel Cochet). DMR Délégué Militaire de Region (Regional Military Delegate). DOMIGNY Regional commandant of French resistance group. DONKEYMAN F-Section circuit. DORDOGNE Code name for 2LT J. Deschamps, French member of JEDBURGH team GUY. DORSET Code name for MAJ C. Ogden-Smith, British leader of JEDBURGH team FRANCIS. DOUBLOON Code name for SGT N. Wood, British radio operator of JEDBURGH team GILBERT. DOUGLAS Cover name for JEDBURGH team composed of: CPT (British) R. A. Rubinstein (AUGURE); CPT (French) J. Ronglou (ANACHORE); and SGT (British) J. D. Raven (HALF CROWN). DR/JED SFHQ symbol for Chief of the JEDBURGH Section. DRONNE Code name for CPT A. Dhomas, French member of JEDBURGH team GUY. DU FOUET Code name for member of French resistance and inspector of Maquis. DUPLIX Code name for Maquis group leader. DURANCE Code name for CPT G. le Zachmeur, French member of JEDBURGH team FRANCIS. DURANT Code name for Commandant Boucher, regional FFI chief. DURET Code name for member of Armee Secrete. ECLIPSE SI mission. EDWARD Code name for British officer organizing resistance. EGALITE Code name for French resistance group. ELLIPSE Code name for a French military delegate of the region. EMILE Code name for French patriot. EMINENCE Code name for COL Roland of the FTP. EMFFI État Major des Forces Françaises de l'Intérieure (General Staff, French Forces of the Interior). ESSEX Code name for CQMS T. S. Menzies, British radio operator of JEDBURGH team JULIEN. ETOILE Mission SAS mission. FAUST F-Section agent. FCNL French Committee of National Liberation, an exterior resistance executive body dominated after March 1944 by de Gaulle. See CFLN. FELIX Cover name for JEDBURGH team composed of: CPT (British) J. Marchant (SOMERSET); CPT (French) J. Kerneval (CARNARVON); and SGT (British) P. M. Colvin (MIDDLESEX). FERNAND Code name for British agent. FFI Forces Françaises de l'Intérieur (French Forces of the Interior), Resistance military forces united under the command of Général Koenig. FIFE Code name for MAJ R. Parkinson, British leader of JEDBURGH team ANDY. FLORIN Code name for SGT R. Brierley, radio operator of JEDBURGH team DANIEL. FONCTION French DMR. FOURCHE Code name for Allied agent. FOURNIER Code name for British SAS officer. FN Front National (Communist-dominated French resistance group). FRANC Code name for CPT L. Legrand, French member of JEDBURGH team HUGH. FRANCANTE Code name for French agent. FRANCIS Cover name for JEDBURGH team composed of: MAJ (British) C. Ogden-Smith (DORSET); CPT (French) G. le Zachmeur (DURANCE); and SGT (British) A. J. Dallow (GROAT). FRANCIS Code name for member of the FFI. FRANCOIS Code name for member of French resistance organization. FRANK Cover name for JEDBURGH team composed of: CPT (French) A. Massoni (DUMBARTON); CPT (British) I. Isaac (WESTMORELAND); and SGT (British) T. Henney (CHESHIRE). FREDERICK Cover name for JEDBURGH team composed of: MAJ (British) A. W. Wise (KINROSS); CPT (French) P. Aguirec (VIRE); and 1SG Robert r. Kehoe (PESETA). FRONTAL Code name for non-American agent. F-Section A tripartite organization and branch of the Western European Section controlled entirely by SOE/SO independently of the FFI, with non-Gaullist agents. FTP(F) Francs-Tireurs et Partisans (Français) (Communist-dominated French military resistance organization). GAIETY Code name for non-American agent. GALWAY Code name for LT J. Favel, Rench member of JEDBURGH team BRUCE. GAPEAU Code name for LT P. E. Dupont, French member of JEDBURGH team HARRY. GARDENER Code name for SOE F-Section circuit in the Marseilles area controlled by R. R. Boiteux. GAVIN Cover name for JEDBURGH team composed of: CPT W. B. Dreux, Infantry, (SIXPENCE); CDTM(French) D. Jeanclaude (SCHILLING); and Sous-LT (French) G. Masson (HALFPENNY). GEORGE Cover name for JEDBURGH team composed of: CPT Paul Cyr, Infantry, (WIGTON); CPT (French) P. Erard (SAVE); and 2LT (French) C. LeJeune (RUPEE). GERALD Cover name for JEDBURGH team composed of: CPT J. Knerly, Field Artillery (SUFFOLK); CPT (French) J. Beaumont (NORFOLK); and SGT (American) B. E. Friele (SELKIRK). GERMINAL Mission F-Section Allied mission to wind up resitance in France. GILBERT Cover name for JEDBURGH team composed of: CPT (British) C. Blathwayt (SURREY); CPT (French) P. Charron (ARDECHE); and SGT (British) N. Wood (DUBLOON). GILES Cover name for JEDBURGH team composed of: CPT B. M. Knox, Infantry, (KENTUCKY); CPT (French) P. Lebel (LOIRE); and L/SGT (British) G. H. Tack (TICKIE). GIROND Code name for CPT A. A. Trofimov, British leader of JEDBURGH team GUY. GODFREY Cover name for JEDBURGH team composed of: LT J. Forbes, Field Artillery, (RHODE ISLAND); LT (French) J. Morhange (ROSCOMMON); and SGT (American) F. Hanson (ROXBURGH). GOODFELLOW Code name for member of SAS party. GOUJEARD Code name for French resistance leader. GRAFFIER Code name for DMR. GRANDJEAN Code name for regional Maquis commander. GREGORY Cover name for JEDBURGH team composed of: MAJ (British) K. D. Bennett; CPT (French) P. de Schonen; and SGT (British) R. Brierley. GRILLETTE Code name for French patriot. GROAT Code name for SGT A J. Dallow, British radio operator of JEDBURGH team FRANCIS. GROG Code name for SAS party. Group GDNRJ Signal code. Groupes francs Military units of the MUR specializing in sabotage and raids. GUY Cover name for JEDBURGH team composed of: CPT (British) A. A. Trofimov (GIRONDE); CPT (French) T. Thomas (DRONNE); and Sous-LT (French) J. Deschamps (DORDOGNE). HALF CROWN Code name for SGT J. D. Raven, British radio operator of JEDBURGH team DOUGLAS. HALFPENNY Code name for 2LT G. Masson, French radio operator of JEDBURGH team GAVIN. HAMISH Cover name for JEDBURGH team composed of: 1LT Robert M. Anstett, Coast Artillery Corps (ALABAMA); LT (French) L. Blanchere (LOUISIANA); and 1SG (American) L. J. Watters (KANSAS). HAMLET Code name for non-American SFHQ organizer. HAROLD Cover name for JEDBURGH team composed of: MAJ (British) V. E. Whitty (ROSS); LT (French) P. Rimbaut (TYRONE); and SGT (British) H. Verlander (SLIGO). HARRODS Code name for SAS party. HARRY Cover name for JEDBURGH team composed of: CPT (British) D. D. Guthrie (DENBY); LT (French) P. E. Dupont (GAPEAU); and 2/Cl. (French) R. Legrand (CENTIME). HAUTEUR Code name for FFI agent and DMR. HECTOR Code name for French organizer. HENRY Cover name for JEDBURGH team composed of: LT R. E. Moore, Infantry, (NEW MEXICO); LT (French) S. Montcler (ANGLESEY); and SGT (American) V. M. Rocca (WEST VIRGINIA). HERIC Code name for FFI agent and commandant. HERVE Code name for non-American organizer. HILARY Cover name for JEDBURGH team composed of: LT P. H. Chadbourne, Infantry, (NEVADA); CPT (French) E. Marchant (CHARENTE); and Sous-LT (French) R. Pariselle (KUPEK). HORACE Cover name for JEDBURGH team composed of: MAJ J. Summers, Cavalry, (WYOMING); LT (French) C. Levalois (SOMME); and SGT (American) W. Zielske (DIME). HUBERT Code name for member of Armee Secrete. HUGH Cover name for JEDBURGH team composed of: CPT (British) W. R. Crawshay (CROWN); CPT (French) L. Legrand (FRANC); and C. C. R. Mersiol (French) (YONNE). IAN Cover name for JEDBURGH team composed of: MAJ J. Gildee, Field Artillery, (OKLAHOMA); CPT (French) Y. Delorme (MAINE); and SGT (American) L. Bourgoin (MAYO). ISAAC Mission RF Section Allied mission. IVOR Cover name for JEDBURGH team composed of: CPT (British) J. H. Cox (MONMOUTH); LT (French) Y. M. Dantec (SELUNE); and SGT (British) R. Loosmore (LUNDY). JACOB Cover name for JEDBURGH team composed of: CPT (British) V. A. Gough (ARRAN); LT (French) G. Baraud (CONNAUGHT); and SGT (British) K. Seymour (SKYE). JAMES Cover name for JEDBURGH team composed of: LT J. K. Singlaub, Infantry, (MISSISSIPPI); LT (French) D. Leb (MICHIGAN); and SGT (American) A> J. Denneau (MASSACHUSETTS). JEAN Code name for military chief of region. JEAN-BARI Code name for Maquis leader. JEAN-MARIE Code name for organizer of F-Section DONKEYMAN circuit. JEDBURGH British and American code name for specially-trained three-man team to work with resistance units behind the enemy lines. JOCKEY Code name for F-Section circuit in southeastern France controlled by F. Cammaerts. JOSEPH Code name for agent of the Maquis. JULIEN Cover name for JEDBURGH team composed of: MAJ (British) A. J. Clutton (STAFFORD); LT (French) J. Brouillard (VERMONT); and CQMS T. S. Menzies (ESSEX). KANSAS Code name for 1SG L. J. Watters, American radio operator of JEDBURGH team HAMISH. KENTUCKY Code name for CPT B. M. Knox, Infantry, member of JEDBURGH team GILES. KILDARE Code name for LT J. Telmon, member of JEDBURGH team AUBREY. KINLEY Code name for chief subdivisionnaire of the FFI. KINROS Code name for MAJ A. W. Wise, British leader of JEDBURGH team FREDERICK. KRONER Code name for SGT I. Hooker, British radio operator of JEDBURGH team ALAN. KUPEK Code name for Sous-LT R. Pariselle, French radio operator of JEDBURGH team HILARY. LASH Code name for JEDBURGH exercise, commencing 31 May 1944 and ending 8 June 1944, of a plan for JEDBURGH teams to contact a resistance group and using it to attack enemy rail communications and other targets as indicated through radio transmissions at a later time. LE CHAT Code name for French resistance group leader. LEE Cover name for JEDBURGH team composed of: CPT C. H. Brown, Cavalry, (PICE); LT (French) N. Viguier (SOUS); and Sous-LT (French) A. Chevalier (REIS). LEIX Code name for LT A. Thouville, member of JEDBURGH team ALEXANDER. LEMNISCATE Code name for DMR French resistance group. LESCAT Code name for agent of French Maquis. LIGNE Code name for French patriot. LIONEL Code name for Allied agent. Usage LIONEL at EDOUARD. LOIRE Code name for CPT P. Lebel, French member of JEDBURGH team GILES. LOUIS Code name for member of French resistance group. LOUISIANA Code name for LT L. Blanchere, French member of JEDBURGH team HAMISH. LOYTON Code name for SAS party. LUNDY Code name for SGT R. Loosmore, radio operator of JEDBURGH team ANDY. LYSANDER British light aircraft type used for insertions. MAINE Code name for LT Y. Delorme, French member of JEDBURGH team IAN. MANDINAUD Code name for member of the Maquis. MANOMETRE Code name for French agent. MAQUIS Name given to French guerrilla bands. Originally used as name given to high ground in southeastern France covered with scrub growth in which French guerrilla bands operated and from which they took the name. Individual member of such a band was a maquisard. MARCEL Code name for FFI leader. MARIE-THERESE Code name for FFI agent and liaison. MARKSMAN F-Section circuit. MARRIONNEAU Code name for FFI leader of Corps Franc. MARY Code name for French liaison agent. MASSACHUSETTS Code name for SGT A. J. Denneau, radio operator of JEDBURGH team JAMES. MASSINGHAM Code name for SOE base at Guyotville, west of Algiers. MAURICE Cover name for JEDBURGH team composed of: CPT C. M. Carman, Cavalry, (UTAH); LT (French) H. Dumesnil (VIRGINIA); and SGT (American) F. J. Cole (GEORGIA). MAXIMUM Code name for non-American agent. MAYO Code name for SGT Lucien Bourgain, French radio operator of JEDBURGH team IAN. ME/65 Cover name for Milton Hall, JEDBURGH training school in Peterborough, England. MECHALIS F-Section organizer. MI-6 British military intelligence. MICHAUD Code name for departmental chief of French resistance organization. Usage MICHAUD at DARIES. MICHEL Code name for member of the FTP. MICHIGAN Code name for LT D. Leb, French member of JEDBURGH team JAMES. MICHONNEAU Code name for French resistance leader. MIDDLESEX Code name for SGT P. M. Colvin, British radio operator of JEDBURGH team FELIX. Milice Vichy police force, headed by Joseph Darnand, that employed Gestapo-like tactics against the Resistance. MISSISSIPPI Code name for LT J. L. Singlaub, Infantry, leader of JEDBURGH team JAMES. MITCHELL Plan CPT M. Millett's mission into France to prepare for reception of JEDBURGH teams there. MLN Mouvement de Libération Nationale (a federation of the MUR with several northern France resistance groups). MUR Mouvements Unis de la Résistance (a consolidation of three southern France resistance groups: Combat, Libération, and Franc-Tireur). MONMOUTH Code name for CPT J. H. Coxe, British leader of JEDBURGH team IVOR. MONARQUE Code name for non-American agent. MORAGLIA Code name for French agent. MOSSY Code name for dropping ground. NEBRASKA Code name for LT M. B. Starring, Cavalry, leader of JEDBURGH team ANTHONY. NEVADA Code name for LT P. H. Chadbourne, Infantry, member of JEDBURGH team HILARY. NICHOLAS Cover name for JEDBURGH team composed of: CPT (British) J. C. Maude (LEICESTER); LT (French) H. Puget (BRECKNOCK); and SGT (British) M. A. Whittle (NORTHUMBERLAND). NICOLAS Code name for French agent of the Maquis. NICOLE Code name for French agent. NOIZET Code name for French member of Maquis. NORFOLK Code name for CPT J. Beaumont, French member of JEDBURGH team GERALD. OG Operational Group. Composed of specially trained volunteers (officers and enlisted men) dispatched on missions of sabotage and guerrilla fighting. Normally composed of 2 officers and 28 enlisted men. OKLAHOMA Code name for MAJ John Gildee, Field Artillery, leader of JEDBURGH team IAN. OLIVE Code name for French agent. ORA Organisation de la Résistance de l'Armée (French resistance organization composed mainly of members of Giraudist groups and the old Armée d'Armistace, dibanded in 1942 by the Germans). ORCIA Code name for French agent. ORGEAT Mission Special EMFFI mission sent into the field to set up resistance in southeastern zone of France and act as liaison with SF detachments, composed of Allied officers, JEDBURGHS and FFI agents. OXFORD Code name for CPT B. Allet, French member of JEDBURGH team ALEC. PABLO Code name for member of the FFI. PAIR Code name for French agent. PASCAL Code name for French patriot. PATRE Code name for non-American Allied radio operator. PATRICK Cover name for Operational Group dispatched on 14/15 and 15/16 August 1944 to the Indre department of France. PATRICK Code name for member of French Maquis. PAUL Cover name for JEDBURGH team composed of: MAJ (British) E. Hood (SHROPSHIRE); LT (French) F. Cormier (DURTHE); and SGT (British) K. J. W. Brown (LIMERICK). PAULINE Code name for Miss P. Witherington, French agent. Usage PAULINE at GENEVIEVE; and PAULINE at MARIE. PEMBROKE Code name for CPT S. N. Cannicott, British leader of JEDBURGH team ALAN. PERTH Code name for CPT C. Deprez, member of JEDBURGH team ANTHONY. PERUVIER Code name for Allied non-American radio operator. PESETA Code name for 1SG Robert R. Kehoe, American radio operator of JEDBURGH team FREDERICK. PFENNIG Code name for SGT J. Bradner, American radio operator of JEDBURGH team ANTHONY. PHILIP Code name for JEDBURGH team composed of: CPT (French) J. Derouen (KINTYRE); LT R. A. Lucas, Infantry, (CAITHNESS); and SGT (American) G. Grgat (LEINSTER). -SEE ALSO RUPERT PIASTRE Code name for Sous-LT L. Giry, French radio operator of JEDBURGH team BRUCE. PICE Code name for CPT C. H. Brown, Cavalry, leader of JEDBURGH team LEE. PIERRE Code name for non-American agent. PIMENTO F-Section circuit in the Rhône valley and adjacent areas controlled by A. Brooke. PLANETTE DMR of the FFI. POUND Code name for SGT E. B. Esch, American radio operator of JEDBURGH team RONALD. PWE Political Warfare Executive (British). QSA3 Communication signal. QUENTIN Cover name for JEDBURGH team composed of: CPT (British) W. S. Fenton (CORNWALL); LT (French) J. Lessere (WICKLOW); and SGT (British) R. Dawson (MERIONETH). QUININE Cover name for JEDBURGH team composed of: MAJ (British) R. McPherson (ANSELME); LT (French) M. Bourdon (ARISTIDE); and SGT (British) O. Brown (FELICIEN). R- Resistance Region. Usage: R-1, R-2, etc. RAC Code name for member of the FFI. RADO Code name for RF Section agent. RATEAU Code name for RF Section agent. RATISSOIRE Code name for French agent. RC Reception Committee. REIS Code name for Sous-LT A. Chevalier, French radio operator of JEDBURGH team LEE. RF Section Section of the Western European Directorate dealing with the original, independent French resistant groups which maintained direct liaison with BCRA (Gaullist French Central Office of Information). RENANDIN Code name for member of the FTP. REVEZ Code name for non-American agent. RICHARD Code name for F-Section Agent. ROBERT Code name for leader of a Maquis group. ROCKET Code name for non-American agent. ROGER Code name for member of the BOA. ROLLAND Code name for Chief of FTP of region. RONA Code name for LT S. J. O. Alsop, American leader of JEDBURGH team ALEXANDER. RONALD Cover name for JEDBURGH team composed of: LT S. R. Trumps, Infantry, (BOURSIER); LT (French) J. Dartigues (BOUTTON); and SGT (American) E. B. Esch (POUND). ROSS Code name for MAJ V. E. Whtty, British leader of JEDBURGH team HAROLD. ROSSIGNOT Code name for French patriot. ROUSSEAU Code name for member of the FFI. RUPEE Code name for 2LT C. Lejeune, French radio operator of JEDBURGH team GEORGE. RUPERT Cover name for JEDBURGH team composed of: LT R. A. Lucas, Infantry, (CAITHNESS); CPT (French) J. Derouen (KINTYRE); and SGT (American) G. Grgat (LEINSTER). RUTLAND Code name for CPT G. Marchant, British leader of JEDBURGH team AUBREY. RV Abbreviation for rendezvous. SALESMAN F-Section circuit. SAMSON Code name for non-American agent. SAMUEL Code name for F-Section British agent. SAMWEST SAS base. SANDRA Code name for regional commander of the Front National and chief of German controlled police in Nantes. SAP Section d'atterrissage et de parachutage (Section for Landings and Parachuting in southern France). SAS Special Airborne Service. British Army Airborne force for special missions. SAVE Code name for CPT P. Erard, member of JEDBURGH team GEORGE. SECRET ARMY Gaullist military forces (l'Armée Secrète). SELKIRK Code name for 1SG Berent E. Friele, American radio operator of JEDBURGH team GERALD. SELUNE Code name for LT Y. M. Dantex, French member of JEDBURGH team IVOR. SERPOLET Sub-mission of the ORGEOT Mission. SFHQ Special Force Headquarters. Joint SOE/SO headquarters in SHAEF. SFU Special Force Unit. SFU No. 4 was SPOC's field unit serving as liaison between the FFI and the Seventh Army. SHAEF Supreme Headquarters Allied Expeditionary Force. SHILLING Code name for MAJ Leanclaude, French member of JEDBURGH team GAVIN. SHINOILE Mission RF Section mission and sub-mission of the ORGEOT Mission. SHIPWRIGHT F-Section circuit. SI Special Intelligence Branch, Office of Strategic Services. SIPO Sicherheitspolizei (German secret police). SKYE Code name for SGT K. Seymour, British radio operator of JEDBURGH team JACOB. SIXPENCE Code name for CPT Dreux, British leader of JEDBURGH team GAVIN. SLIGO Code name for SGT H. Verlander, British radio operator of JEDBURGH team HAROLD. SNELGROVE Code name for SAS party. SO Special Operations Branch, Office of Strategic Services. SOCRATE Code name for regional Maquis commander. SOE/SO Joint SOE and SO (of OSS) office in London which later became SFHQ. SOMERSET Code name for CPT J. J. Marchant, British leader of JEDBURGH team FELIX. SOMME Code name for LT G. Levalois, French member of JEDBURGH team HORACE. SOUS Code name for LT N. Viguier, French member of JEDBURGH team LEE. SPITFIRE Code name for a landing strip on the Vaucluse Plateau, ten miles north of Apt. SPOC Special Project Operations Center, in Algiers. SSS Strategic Service Section (an OSS/SI unit attached to Seventh Army). ULTRA Code name for German messages deciphered at Bletchley Park, England, through the use of the ENIGMA machine. UNDERFOOT Cover name for 21st Army Group. URIAGE Code name for member of the FFI. VAUDEL Code name for LTC Felix, French DMR. VEGA Code name for non-American agent. VENTRILOQUIST F-Section circuit. VERMONT Code name for LT J. Brouillard, French member of JEDBURGH team JULIEN. VERNEUIL Code name for Maquis regional commander. VERVAINE Mission EMFFI mission. VERRY Code name for French agent. VIOLETTE Code name for French agent. VIRE Code name for CPT P. Aguirec, French member of JEDBURGH team FREDERICK. WALLACE Code name for non-American agent. WASH 19115 British code name for SAS party. WATERMARK Cover name for SFHQ. WELEHORE Code name for non-American agent. WIGTON Code name for CPT Paul Cyr, Infantry, leader of JEDBURGH team GEORGE. WYOMING Code name for MAJ J. Summers, Cavalry, leader of JEDBURGH team HORACE. XAVIER F-Section British agent. YACC Code name for Maquis regional chief. YALELOCK Cover name for Special Force Detachment No. 12. YONNE Code name for C. C. R. Mersiol, French radio operator of JEDBURGH team HUGH.UGH YVES Code name for regional chief of the FFI. YVON Code name for member of the FTP. ZELANDAIS Code name for non-American agent. ZERO Code name for regional chief of resistance. | |||||
| 393rd Special Services/General Services | 32 Relevance | 16 years ago | kkopacki | LOOKING FOR... | |
| Hi Ken: First off, it does stand for Distinctive Insignia. Correct! The following is scanned from my American Society of Military Insignia Collectors book, Engineer's edition. Volume 1, December 1996. The entry in the book refers to the 393rd Engineer Bn. Now there can be variations, but insignia were NOT shared with other units. Some may be similar, as is the case with the 36th and 540th, as they shared history. In fact, the 540th 3rd Bn actually joined the 36th, and the 540th remained as a two battalion unit throughout the war. Their seahorse insignia bear a close resemblance. Just for further clarification and reference, I am going to join this post with an older post on the 393rd. Back in a moment after I do this. Thanks for replying. I meant the DI comment in a sarcastic way I've collected WW2 memorbillia for almost 30 years, and never had a situation like this come up. But I'm also wise enough to know that there have been lots of stranger things to occur in how the Army badged itself. So, here are some visual aids I have to share. First photo is the cover of the 393rd book I have. Note that I've only seen one other turn up on ebay in the past 10 years. This copy belonged to my grandfather. This is the first page of the book, and explains the details of the 'blazon'. The photo you provided is the same as the DI I have. Well 3 of them. the other two are similar but different. Next, is the 5 different DI's I have all named to the 393rd. The top 3 are all the same design, no hallmarks and are pinback. Front and back features are consistent with it being the same manufacturer. The lower two, lack the motto, the pelicans wings are not spread, and instead of white there is a silver bar. Both have no hallmarks as well, and the one on the left is pinback, and the one on the right is clutchback. Also note the pelican on both lower ones is a seperate piece, and not embedded. In each case, they listed them as 393rd Engineer or Engineer BN. One might have been named Special Services, but I can't remember. You can see why this is confusing me I have solid proof telling me one thing in the form of the book, newspaper acct and photographs. Things I can hold in my hand. Yet something totally different keeps turning up. Then there is the 2 oddball DI's that I don't know what to make of. Being able to see the 393rd General Services DI(if they had one, not all units did) would at least help me narrow the playing field. My working theory(for lack of anything better) is the motto lacking DI's are the GS regiment and the SS regiment had the one with the motto and flying pelican. It's just a theory based on frustration, but who knows. OH, I almost forgot the kicker...... In the whole of the 393rd book, and all other photographs, I don't have a single solitary image with a GI wearing one. I have group photos of the whole Regiment, man after man in Class A's(including my very proud buck sergeant of a grandad) and not a single swinging **** has one. So, makes it even more interesting for me. One of these days I'm going to get it sorted out. Ken | |||||
| 393rd Special Services/General Services | 32 Relevance | 16 years ago | kkopacki | LOOKING FOR... | |
| Hey everyone, I've been researching my grandfathers unit from WW2 for a number of years now. It's spawned www.campclaiborne.org, and has taken on a life of its own. I still however hunt for stuff relating to the 393rd, and that is something that's fairly difficult and been less than plentiful. Over the years on ebay, I've managed to pick up a few items that are 393rd related. A handful of photographs, that are now on the site, a newspaper article from the Claiborne paper covering them unvailing their unit crest and motto. I've also picked up 5 DI's(distinctive insignia). 3 of these are the same design, flat pinback style with enameling and the unit motto at the bottom. The other 2 have raised pelican emblems, no motto and silver instead of white as in the other 3.(I'll supply photos as soon as I get a chance this evening. Also, the wings on the pelican are spread in the 3 matching, and folded in on the other 2. Reason I'm mentioning all of this is that in the past week, 3 newly made patches of the 393rd Special Services Engineer Regiment have turned up on ebay. 3! All named to the 393rd Engineer Batallion(African American) or similarly worded. So, I flip open the 393rd Special Service Regiment book the unit produced, and there is the crest, exactly as the patch looks. Knowing there was a 393rd General Services Engineer Regiment(African American) it makes me wonder this: 1. is the motto-less DI's I have the 393rd GS emblem? 2. is it just a variant of the 393rd SS? 3. did unit's share DI's? cause I thought the DI meant "Distinctive Insignia". I have to tend to family matters for a while, but will post more this evening linking to some information I have, with pictures etc. Any info/insight/speculation is appreciated. Best, Ken Kopacki Camp Claiborne Historical Research Site www.campclaiborne.org | |||||
