The Draft
The draft began on October 16, 1940. The US government required that all men between the ages of 21 and 35 register with their local draft boards for possible service. Three draft boards operated in Outagamie County.
The draft eventually targeted men as young as 18 and as old as 64. Outagamie County draft boards registered 23,351 men. Draft boards around the country registered 50 million men by the war's end.
Draft boards registered men and classified them into the following categories:
Class I: available for service
Class II: deferred because of an essential job
Class III: deferred because of dependency or hardship
Class IV: deferred because of age, health, or other factors
Draft boards considered deferments temporary and drew men from deferred classes when the government needed more soldiers.
Army requirements for male recruits included:
height of 5 feet
weight of 105 pounds
have at least half of his natural teeth
no flat feet
no hernia
no venereal diseases
literate (the Army waived this requirement by the war's end)
The average male draftee stood 5 feet, 8 inches tall, weighed 144 pounds, had a 33 1/2-inch chest, a 31-inch waist, and wore a size 9 1/2 D shoe.
Army requirements for female recruits included:
height of 5 feet
weight of 100 pounds
2 years of high school
age 21 to 45
references
police check
childless
The government never drafted women. Women volunteered for the Women's Auxiliary Army Corps (WAAC). The Corp became a full Army branch in 1943 and renamed itself the Women's Army Corps (WAC).
The average female soldier stood 5 feet, 4 inches tall, weighed 128 pounds, had a 26 1/2-inch waist, and wore a size 6-B shoe.
Marion J Chard
Proud Daughter of Walter 'Monday' Poniedzialek
540th Combat Engineer - H&S Company
Does anyone have a copy of their WWII draft notice? If so, can you scan and send me a copy via email? Thanks in advance. Will be used in my documentary.
Marion J Chard
Proud Daughter of Walter 'Monday' Poniedzialek
540th Combat Engineer - H&S Company
One 1942 draft notice coming your way M ![]()
Larry
"I'm proud to be an American, Where at least I know I'm free
And I won't forget the men who died, Who gave that right to me."
God bless the USA - Lee Greenwood
"The draft eventually targeted men as young as 18 and as old as 64.". Are you sure of that? Seems I recall it went to 18 to 45 and no older. Sorry I cant relate as I enlisted
in the Army at age 17 in 1943 and didnt get a draft notice to my knowledge.
I wuz drafted at 20. I think the draft notice went to the outhouse along with
the Sears catalog. RJR
Roque J.(Rocky) Riojas
I found my grandfather`s WWII Draft Registration Card on Ancestry.com, he was 63 in `42,
according to the database description: The Fourth Registration, often refered to as the "old man`s registration" was conducted on 27 April 1942 & registered men who
were born on or between 28 April 1877 and 16 February 1897 - men who were between 45 and 64 years old, and were not already in the military.
Larry
"I'm proud to be an American, Where at least I know I'm free
And I won't forget the men who died, Who gave that right to me."
God bless the USA - Lee Greenwood
Hey Larry:
Thanks. Got it this evening! Appreciate your help.
Marion J Chard
Proud Daughter of Walter 'Monday' Poniedzialek
540th Combat Engineer - H&S Company
Once again: "The draft eventually targeted men as young as 18 and as old as 64."
Now was this top age really used for drafting into the Military? I kinda doubt it. Lets hear from anyone with proven facts where people from 45+ to 64 were actually drafted into the military. "Registering" for the draft is one thing (reguardless of age) is one thing, but
being drafted at this age into the military is another thing.
I found a little more info on the "old man draft", seems it was used as a type of
"Occupational Census" and not intended as a draft for military service. It was organized to document the men’s skills for possible use later in the war. After registering, the men were sent three-page occupational questionnaires.
“The purpose of this questionnaire was to secure special information on the industrial capacity and training of the registrants. The United States Employment Service furnished a list of 190 special occupations which were regarded at the time as critical.â€
Larry
"I'm proud to be an American, Where at least I know I'm free
And I won't forget the men who died, Who gave that right to me."
God bless the USA - Lee Greenwood
Here's more about the "fourth draft"
http://genealogy.about.com/od/records/p/wwii_draft.htm
From Kimberly Powell,
Your Guide to Genealogy.
Millions of men living in America completed draft registration cards between 1940 and 1943 as part of the WWII draft. The majority of these draft cards are not yet open to the public for privacy reasons, but almost 6 million WWII draft cards completed during the fourth registration by men between the ages of 42 and 64 in 1942 are available for research. This registration, known as the "Old Man's Draft" provides a great deal of information on the men who participated, including their full name, address, physical characteristics, and date and place of birth.
Record Type: Draft registration cards, original records (microfilm and digital copies also available)
Location: U.S., although some individuals of foreign birth are also included.
Marion J Chard
Proud Daughter of Walter 'Monday' Poniedzialek
540th Combat Engineer - H&S Company
Drafted at 29 in 1941, my Dad felt like an "old man" compared to
most of the "inductees". I think he was self conscious about it at first,
he kept writing home that there were guys older than he in his
camp. Maybe he wondered whether he could measure up to the "youngsters"
in Basic Training. I think he got over THAT pretty quickly. Knowing my Dad,
the younger guys would probably struggle to keep up with HIM, instead of
the other way around.
I think that maybe his age as well as his 6'2" height may've helped get
him selected for one of the Army's 1st MP units. He was a likeable,
steady & responsible kind of guy. Being raised by Michael Howard was a
bit like being raised by an General, so my Dad must've adapted to
Army life pretty easily. My grandfather made his children line up for
"inspection" before church. No hair could be out of place, fingernails had to
be spotless, trousers creased, and shoes shined.
Dad's cousin told me this story which illustrates my grandfather's no nonsense
approach pretty well (you have to imagine the Irish brogues). My grandfather's
baby brother Martin was 20yrs younger & more of a son than a brother.
Over at his brother's house one day, he asks: "Michael, have ye a wee drop of the
craiture (whiskey) about?". Michael straightens up to full height, pulls back as
if to examine him better, looks him up & down & says: "Not for YOU I don't!".
And there you have it! The source of Frank's MP training - his Pa!
Has anyone seen the 1947 film "Life With Father" with William Powell & the beautiful
Irene Dunne? It's a great film! I howl everytime I see it because "Clarence Day"
is so like my grandfather & my Dad.
I digress (as usual). Anyway, I have Dad's draft notice if you need another one Marion.
m2
Digression is allowed on this forum...
After all, that is how we learn so much. ![]()
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I always get a kick out of your posts. So witty and so much fun reading! ![]()
Sure, if you want to email me a copy, I'd be happy to incorporate it.
I am now moving onto the training segment and that will be a lot of fun to work on.
Marion J Chard
Proud Daughter of Walter 'Monday' Poniedzialek
540th Combat Engineer - H&S Company